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A 63-hour-long marathon of GPS jamming attacks disrupted global satellite navigation systems for hundreds of aircraft flying through the Baltic region – and Russia is thought to be responsible

Russia is suspected of launching a record-breaking 63-hour-long attack on GPS signals in the Baltic region. The incident, which affected hundreds of passenger jets earlier this month, occurred amid rising tensions between Russia and the NATO military alliance more than two years since the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

“We have seen an increase in GPS jamming since the start of Russia’s war against Ukraine, and allies have publicly warned that Russia has been behind GPS jamming affecting aviation and shipping,” a NATO official told New Scientist. “Russia has a track record of jamming GPS signals and has a range of capabilities for electronic warfare.”

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[–] avater@lemmy.world 59 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

don't think that this will work. Russia is rotten to the core and there is always another head.

we are fighting a hydra not a snake.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 38 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Anyway, we should start at the top and work downwards. It's a waste of ammo to kill all the involuntary cannon fodder. If the top goes, Russia would have to reconstruct, however that might turn out.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Russia would have to reconstruct, however that might turn out.

Balkanization boogaloo?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 7 months ago

Yes, I'd take that over the status quo.

[–] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Likely not. Everyone who wanted to leave Russia did so in the 1990’s

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago

Like tip to tip? No thanks.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

A state can't fight like that though. Needs to be a non state actor.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Except Putin's behavior isn't sane even by oligarch standards. Another corrupt leader would just take Putin's place, but they might not be inclined to continue with Ukraine. They could just blame it all on Putin and quietly retreat the military. It's not the best outcome, but at least Ukraine would be safe.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But doing it suddenly will create a power vacuum, which usually gets filled by the most ruthless people

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't Russia have lines of succession?

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 7 months ago

“Oops! All Putin!”

[–] brianorca@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

In what world would Putin allow anything other that a yes-man be his official backup?

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's not just Putin, and it's not all of Russia. The Kremlin+oligarchs are the problem.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Humanity really needs to figure out how to handle corrupt people in power.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We have. It's just against the ToS on most forums.

[–] FiniteBanjo 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Is it that thing that Korea did after the fall of the Dai Nippon Empire? How is that going for them?

Or maybe we could use some Middle East examples, like Iran or Afghanistan? Are those good examples of handling corrupt people in power? South America might have a few examples...?

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yep, can't ever improve anything, world has to suck this much in these ways.

[–] FiniteBanjo 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like it sucks a lot less than it used to in most modernized countries, especially European Nations and Canada. Even the USA didn't use to have Medicaid or overtime pay (Fair Labor Standards Act was in 1938), etc. It's just that these improvements weren't caused by things that talking about would put you on a watchlist, they were caused by slow progressive reform and political activism.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, they were caused by workers fighting the US army with guns in the 20s, and all the industrialized nations of the world failing to stop a bunch of dipshit peasants in the ass backwards frozen nowhere from walking into the palace and painting the walls red, then dispossession g the entire propertied class, and giving a substantial chunk of them the wall.

Why would they give you shit when you beg, if they aren't afraid? Common humanity or some shit? Have you ever read a history book or news story in your life?

[–] FiniteBanjo 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Followed immediately by the global Great Depression in the 1930s and both World Wars? I'm not saying correlation equals causation but it sounds like those 1920s dudes accomplished jack shit. Plus, deposing of the ruling class of Russia led to the USSR which... Did not end well...

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm yelling you, we got anything from the government at gun point. That is the only way.

The USSR was shit for Russians (because the Bolsheviks killed all the communists. No I'm not saying worse than the czar, but there was this government in between...), but for everyone else, it was a godsend.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We did, we must get murdered by shitty people in power when we say it too loud.

Short version: don't have these huge power differentials.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh we know how, it's just not pretty.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Oh we know how, it’s just not pretty.

Lol, okay, that's my fault. When I wrote that I was thinking in a non-violent sort of way, legislatively/investigatively. A system of governance that would prevent somebody from warping the system and becoming all powerful and above the system.

The problem with what your advocating is it doesn't solve the problem, it just punts the ball down the field, and then sooner or later the same scenario problem comes back again.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, you could say that with nearly any solution besides peace... which is hard to maintain too. So, pick your poison.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

So, pick your poison.

a non-violent sort of way, legislatively/investigatively. A system of governance that would prevent somebody from warping the system and becoming all powerful and above the system.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I blame the French Revolution for giving these romantic notions. On the surface, it looks like people overthrowing the rich. But when you read into what followed, it was a violent power struggle where yesterday's new leader was next up at the guillotine tomorrow.

And what came of it in the end? Napoleon, another powerful centralized ruler.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

While this is true, I think it's more likely than not that a successor doesn't share the same amount of Soviet fetishism. Putin is kinda out there and doing things that aren't great for Russian business. You only have to be slightly less mad than Putin to realize that.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

But not the same shitty, abd since they're not Putin, they can disown this whole shit show and shut it down without looking weak.