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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 114 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

I think leftists underestimate the role Evangelical Christianity plays in the current unhinged actions of the west.

The western support and founding of Israel, purposely making climate change worse and letting the pandemic spread make sense of you realise western leaders believe in a kind of holy prophecy.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 71 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I grew up going to my grandmother’s evangelical Southern Baptist church.

Those people are fucking insane, and I genuinely believe that the US needs to be occupied and de-christianized. Their beliefs are unhinged and incredibly dangerous and those who believe and spread them should be persecuted.

I’m glad she’s dead because she’d be cheering this on and I’m glad I mostly get to remember her as the nice lady who had chickens in the back yard

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 49 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's really dangerous when the religion lines up with the imperialism.

In the case of Israel, you have the base materialism that's pushes the US to escalate there, but you also have the superstructure of holy war to cement it in the hearts of the population.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 30 points 7 months ago

Yeah, it's really dangerous when the religion lines up with the imperialism.

"When religion and politics ride in the same cart, when that cart is driven by a living holy man (baraka), nothing can stand in their path." - Dune, Appendix II

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 7 months ago

IMHO the imperialism is actively involved in promoting the religious right, just like the CIA did with moonies in s Korea and Japan. It's part of the black budget.

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

It's not that we're wrong about there being a base under the superstructure, we just sometimes forget that the superstructure is still involved.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

Quick where's my burning church emote?

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It really challenges the idea that nations ultimately are purely rational actors driven by resource competition. I have to remind myself sometimes that there are in fact some religious whackos tugging on the steering wheels. I don't have a very good understanding of Iran, but I assume they have their share of that too (how could they not?)

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

don't have a very good understanding of Iran, but I assume they have their share of that too (how could they not?)

The main example I have of this is that Iran doesn’t want nuclear weapons because it believes they’re haram. Which, fair enough, but they’d probably help keep the US from fucking with you as much.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 7 months ago

I feel like the concept of rationality goes out the window when you start talking about larger and larger groups. :/

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

I posted a video that goes into it. Evangelical Christians are the largest pro-Israel lobby in the US. https://hexbear.net/post/2302220