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I don't just mean outrage or regular rage, I mean shock that someone was to the left of "legal weed and free college but only for those that operate a successful business for 3 years in a disadvantaged community" top-cop takes.

I think federating took them by surprise, looking back. For about a week, those smug liberals were at a loss to even fathom what Hexbears were saying, and could only chant bullshit about how we're Russian/Chinese bots.

Sure they still do that but they've slightly adapted to Hexbear presence.

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[–] CaptFeather@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How do you guys feel about democratic socialism? I feel like it's the only realistic way to get socialism without bloodshed - though I also understand the US is a long goddamn way away.

Be gentle pls, I'm still learning ❤️

Edit: thanks for all the replies!! There's a ton to read through so bear with me

[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Look up the Spanish civil war. Democratic Socialists won the government through elections and all of the right wing elements in the country banded together to overthrow what was a mildly socialist government. Take note of how Hitler's Germany aided the Right faction under Franco, but no liberal nations aided to rightfully elected socialist government. Great Britain, France, and the US all decided to stay neutral as a military dictatorship overthrew one of their peers.

My point is that right wing elements won't let you vote away their power. And that liberal governments, while they nominally espouse the rule of law and democracy, will let fascism run over socialist movements.

That isnt true, those "neutral" countries were actually helping Germany rearm, so were indirectly contributing to the Franco faction

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

They just didn't vote hard enough.

[–] DoobKIller@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This nonviolent stuff'll get you killed - Charles Cobb

instructive example; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende

Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens was a Chilean physician and socialist politician who served as the 28th president of Chile from 3 November 1970 until his death on 11 September 1973. He became the first Marxist to be elected president in a liberal democracy in Latin America.

As president, Allende sought to nationalize major industries, expand education and improve the living standards of the working class. He clashed with the right-wing parties that controlled Congress and with the judiciary. On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état supported by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)