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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 82 points 6 months ago (9 children)

I'm closer to a carnivore than a vegan, but if something is good, it's good. I'm not going to hate on something delicious because I feel threatened by someone else's life choices.

Don't worry, farmers; if I start eating vegan cheese I promise I'll make up for it in beef consumption.

[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 52 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A lot of vegan "alternatives" are actually really good when you know what you're doing with them. I will take tofu or mushrooms over meat any day tbh. Problem is some people don't know that and will just prepare tofu like it's meat, and then wonder why their tofu tastes like shit.

[–] polle@feddit.de 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I tried tofu multiple times in different meals as a alternative for meat, but sadly all were disappointing. Do you have recipes that you can recommend? I am eager to find one.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Stir fry

A lot of times I think the problem is trying to substitute the protein in a dish with tofu or something vegan. It's always going to be compared to the meat version. Should just try to find recipes that were tofu based to begin with, like mapo tofu.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

I love meat, but some do the best dishes my partner and I have ever made are vegan, and fried tofu is a staple.

We have friends who are vegan or have very strange allergies and have to cook for a mixed crowd

Banger meals, seriously

[–] polle@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I tried different recipes, but most of them were underwhelming, like the meal would be kinda the same without.

Stir fry how? Which type of tofu, pressed? And probably dipped in cornstarch?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Tofu doesn't really bring taste, just texture so that's kinda to be expected. That's why I typically get firm or extra firm. I like those textures over softer ones.

I'm not sure what you mean by pressed as all tofu is pressed. That's how tofu is made. I've never tried dipping it in cornstarch so IDK how that would turn out. I don't typically do anything other than cut it up and cook it.

As for how to stir fry; I suggest looking that up. You mostly just use whatever veg and protein you want and add some stir fry sauce at the end. I haven't really found one I prefer. I don't do stir fry all that often. I really should since it's super simple.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Extra firm+fried in oil has never NOT been a hit for me! Generally sesame or strangely peanut butter has killed it among my non-veg friends, trying to make a dish for both non-veg and vegan friends.

[–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

"Pressed" tofu usually refers to firm or extra firm tofu that is then put under much higher pressure to expel not only more water but also most of the air, and has a completely different texture.

Usually using something like this

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Im both a meat eater and tofu lover. Mapo tofu is probably one of my favorite dishes.

This is the recipe I sort of follow https://thewoksoflife.com/ma-po-tofu-real-deal/

[–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago

They're not mutually exclusive. For those too lazy to follow the link - traditional mapo tofu (like many Chinese tofu recipes) isn't vegetarian . Tofu as a total replacement for meat is a Western idea - in most Eastern cultures that use it, tofu is just another ingredient and often used along with meat and animal based broths. The same is true of soy milk.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Would you consider reducing according to carbon footprint?

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 months ago

I live mostly on beer, so I'm doing my part.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same. I had some green Thai curry "duck" at a vegan restaurant once and it was the bomb!

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean if you put Thai curry on anything, it's going to taste awesome. Panang for life.

[–] Nimrod@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Panang gang, rise up!!

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Might want to switch to other animals, beef is questionable ATM.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Has it been confirmed that Bird Flu is transferable via beef? Legit question, I just haven't seen any news about that recently.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Imagine the crisis that a public health bulletin stating "red meat should be cooked thoroughly" would cause. Heh heh heh

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

“Consuming raw or undercooked meats, poultry, seafood, shellfish or eggs may increase your risk of foodborne illness" has been the standard disclaimer since 2016, but nobody's thrown a fit, even though there's a big difference between a rare steak and rare burger (the interior of the ground beef has been exposed, the interior of the steak has not).

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Remnants of bird flu have been found in bovine milk and recently sampled in 20% of milk in grocery stores. So far, it's been determined to just be "genetic material" - not live or infectious. Milk is pasteurized in the US so it's reasonably safe to keep drinking. I don't believe this would impact beef consumption, certainly not cooked beef.
Beth Mole at Ars Technica has been covering it https://arstechnica.com/author/beth/
The CDC is reporting at least one dairy worker has been infected https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/p0401-avian-flu.html

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

I haven't heard anything about it, only that it's been detected in milk and pasteurization kills it. Cooking should kill it if it's in meat anyway. At least to medium, preferably to full doneness.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's been confirmed. Here's your chance to be #1.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago
[–] ConfusedPossum@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think only prions can spread through meat

Edit: I'm obviously wrong, salmonella exists. Also a quick Google search says viruses can also be transferred through meat

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev -1 points 6 months ago

All of my beef is in my freezer from a local farmer about two months ago. Hopefully it's clear.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago

I'm also a meat eater but Impossible burgers hold a special place in my heart. If I'm craving a whopper I'll always go for the Impossible whopper instead - it's just so much more satisfying.

Similarly, the meat quality at my local Chinese spots is questionable so I always get tofu instead.

I'm down to only eating meat half of days, and only for dinner, vs eating meat with every meal every day. My wallet and waistline have thanked me.

[–] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

from personal experience, veggie burgers make excellent topping-condiments to regular burgers

they have all the flavors a burger wants

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

I like this suggestion. Plus it still ultimately reduces beef consumption because maybe I only eat one of these doubles instead of two burgers.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Damn, who would have thought liking good food would be so controversial xD

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Every time I eat vegan cheese my mouth says this ain't quite right. But the taste is usually fine.