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Hamas accepts cease-fire proposal for Gaza after Israel orders Rafah evacuation ahead of attack (apnews.com)

submitted 6 months ago by hedge@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This isn't an evacuation from a natural disaster like a hurricane. They could , you know, just stop the disaster from happening by not bombing civilian infrastructure (which is a war crime)

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, it's not a war crime to bomb civilian infrastructure that is being used for military purposes. This distinction appears to be entirely lost on people. I'll let you think about why the Geneva Convention explicitly creates this exemption.

[+] trevron@beehaw.org 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

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[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 4 points 6 months ago

The reason a ton of civilian infrastructure gets destroyed in Gaza has less to do with Israel being callous and far more with how Hamas are operating, how deeply they decided to embed themselves within civilians.

Read this:

https://stratcomcoe.org/publications/hybrid-threats-hamas-use-of-human-shields-in-gaza/87

I mean actually click on the PDF link and at the very least read the first few pages. It's a thoroughly researched, yet accessible academic paper that shows just how systematic Hamas is in their use of human shields.

I'm pressing you on reading the above report, because I highly doubt you actually ever read the Geneva Conventions (so many people I've debated are using them in a vague manner, never able to name any specific sections), because there are explicit exemptions contained within that you would be familiar with if you had actually read them. If for example a hospital is being used for military purposes, it loses its protection under international law:

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciv-1949/article-19?activeTab=undefined

Guess what Hamas have been doing? Example:

https://youtu.be/pka7H1aMlkQ

An older report:

As well as carrying out unlawful killings, others abducted by Hamas were subjected to torture, including severe beatings with truncheons, gun butts, hoses and wire or held in stress positions. Some were interrogated and tortured or otherwise ill-treated in a disused outpatient’s clinic within the grounds of Gaza City’s main al-Shifa hospital. At least three people arrested during the conflict accused of “collaboration” died in custody.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/