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President Joe Biden promised Black voters Wednesday that he would appoint progressives to the US Supreme Court if elected to a second term, suggesting he expects vacancies on the high court over the next four years.

“The next president, they’re going to be able to appoint a couple justices, and I’ll be damned — if in fact we’re able to change some of the justices when they retire and put in really progressive judges like we’ve always had, tell me that won’t change your life,” he said during a campaign rally in Philadelphia.

It was as explicit a warning as Biden could offer about the stakes of the upcoming election, and a clear reminder that some of the nine justices have entered their seventies.

Clarence Thomas is 75 and Samuel Alito is 74; both are conservative and appointed by Republican presidents. Sonia Sotomayor, a liberal who was nominated by President Barack Obama, turns 70 next month.

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[–] cogman@lemmy.world 83 points 5 months ago (4 children)

11 or 13. You don't do even numbers on the SC so there aren't voting ties.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 5 months ago (2 children)

13 makes the most sense. There are 13 circuits, why not 13 Supreme Court justices?

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

…and the district judges themselves elect/appoint their representatives to SCotUS. Get political appointees out of the top bench, I’ll take an unelected meritocracy over cronyism and patronage any day.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I like that Idea. It doesn't entirely solve the problem of political appointees since the lower court judges are themselves appointed, but it does provide a layer of abstraction to where the judge isn't directly beholden to a party, in theory.

[–] msage@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago

It's not like Trump appointed hundreds of judges... right?

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It would at least (in theory) kick the politicization of judges to the circuit level and promote the same borderline majority opinions there instead - but make accession to SCotUS a supermajority. Hopefully then the only ones they can agree on are outstanding jurists.

Or if it does fall prey to partisan agendas, then it makes the ideological bent of SCotUS stable-ish.

  • The Deep South gets two seats
  • New England one seat
  • Two for the Midwest
  • ‘The West’ two seats
  • The Bible/Rust belt one
  • And three for the East Coat & inland

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I...huh. Never thought of this tbh.

[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah agreed. I never quite understood FDRs thinking on putting an even number of people in the court. We have so many 5-4 decisions now an even court would be chaos.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Force a definitive decision, instead of precedent that keeps getting overturned?

Tennis woks kinda like that.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Can’t they recuse or abstain from voting though?

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 5 months ago

They can, but as we can see from Thomas and Alito, they don't.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes. But that rarely happens (usually just because of health issues). There are very few decisions that have been made where all the members didn't weigh in. When even votes have happened the lower court ruling will stand as is. Which is particularly bad when you have places like the 5th circuit trying their best to fascism.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

12 with ties being decided by a season of survivor.