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What did the liberal uproar against Trump actually accomplish?
Nothing. It only resulted in Trump doubling down and doing shit like the programs to rehome separated toddlers into evangelical families.
If Trump is elected you will get to see the liberal uproar against him that you find more heartening than the liberal apologism for Biden, but what the libs will be in uproar about by then could be far bigger civilian death tolls and far more direct military aid to Israel.
Not to mention, the damage is already done by the lib defenders of Biden, if Trump took over and did more heinous stuff to Palestine, and libs suddenly found a bleeding heart, they'd be dismissed in the national spotlight for how they were complacent when Biden was in office. And we will be able to seethe at them then for what they caused years ago, but that would be all we can do. The power of their future uproar has already been ceded today.
Jared Kushner is already in talks with people in Israel about building resorts across Gazan beaches, and he will be the guy to inform Trump's middle east policy. Lastly, we only get to keep Gaza in the spotlight now because dementia addled Biden is completely aloof and incapable of remaining in the spotlight for long, meaning he doesn't hijack the news cycle with some new bullshit the whole media turns their attention to instead the way Trump did every day.
And if Trump were president now you can bet there would be even more rapey Hitler youth frat bros attacking the encampments, than there are now when the protestors are protesting Biden. There would be way more smears of the encampment in populist non-legacy media like Newsmax/InfoWars that currently don't give a shit about them (they would not be more antisemitic than they are pro-Trump), and libs would keep condemning the protestors for hurting optics either way. There is nothing to gain from Biden in office, there is even more to lose from Trump in office.
And I am not doing contrarianism, you can look at my post history, I may be more lib than you but rest assured that that is purely organic and not insidious. I am just trying to evaluate material outcomes and trying to game out what results in minimal harm, I just don't think Biden sucking ass justifies reflexively trying to fumble for dogshit arguments about why things might incidentally work out better under Trump.
I'm not fuckin voting for Biden take your worthless walls of text elsewhere.
It doesn't matter if you think Trump will be worse. I am not voting for the guy that let RvW fall and is supporting genocide and continuing or ratcheting up all Trump's policies while lulling liberals into complacency and even more complicity.
Fuck outta here.
But have you considered how bad it would be if Trump (hypothetically) pursued Biden's agenda even more aggressively than Joe Biden?
I am not asking you to vote, I am asking you to stop grandstanding and doing motivated reasoning for how Trump would be better.
Why are you trying to start an argument about which horrible option is better? Biden was worse because he’s competent. Both are sociopaths. Both are suffering from dementia. Both oversaw the erosion of rights. Both oversaw apartheid and genocide. Trump’s narcissism works against him, though, because he gets distracted and doesn’t get as much done. Biden is good at what he does, and what he’s doing is hastening the end of human life. Accelerationists for Biden!!!
Crucially what you are doing isn't motivated reasoning though, genocide supporter
Why would you not ask him to vote if you truly believe that there is a better choice?
A centrist too, lmao
Never asked anybody to vote, just wanted people do not perpetuate the delusion thay Trump's incompetence may be incidentally beneficial for the things Biden fucked up.