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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] mii@awful.systems 22 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Oh look, Elon openly snuggling up to Nazis and "just asking questions". As if I didn't hate this clown enough.

(For anyone out of the loop: the AfD is a far-right political party in Germany and the spiritual successor to the NSDAP. They're praising the SS, advocate for legalization of holocaust denial and historical revisionism, removal of hate crimes from the code of law, and more. They're so openly Nazis that they got kicked out of the EU parliament's far-right ID coalition for being too fucking Nazi. There's no leeway. They're literal card-carrying national socialists.)

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 20 points 6 months ago

They want to ban kosher food and circumcision, but love the Israeli government and the war on Gaza, which says... so many things, about so many people.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

he's been openly a nazi propagandist pretty much since he took over twitter. they are hiding black crime stats from you.png, "this is the actual truth," etc. without saying "I am literally a Nazi" or "we should do holocaust" I genuinely don't know how much more open he can be about it

[–] maol@awful.systems 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The Henry Ford of our generation.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 6 months ago

oh huh. I didn't actually know about that bit. TIL!

christ every little bit of history I read which had some power-hungry rich fucker going "mmmm maybe we should hear them out", and then watching what's happening in popular media coverage and shit. le sigh.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Notice that he, of course, does not list any of those "policies" that he's "read".

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Conservative: I have been censored for my conservative views. Me: Holy shit! You were censored forwanting lower taxes? Con: LOL no...no not those views. Me: So....deregulation? Con: Haha no not those views either. Me: Which views, exactly? Con: Oh, you know the ones

(for mastodon users who don't get the image: it's Andrew Lawrence's "you know the ones" tweet)

[–] johne@denvr.social 12 points 6 months ago

@mii
I really didn't think the second part of "Those who don't learn history" was going to be so literal.

[–] ebu@awful.systems 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm missing something.

translation: thinking about this too much, or at all really, would be disastrous for my political ideology and ego, so someone else please waste their time and energy typing up a reply i won't read, so i can continue having the image of an intellectual engaged in vigorous debate without actually having to do anything

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I suspect Elon's pretty comfortable with his political ideology and ego, tbh. But I agree with the second part.

[–] ebu@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago
[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago

Counterpoint, his entire "tweeting through it" public show he's been putting out is emblematic of a deeply insecure person.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago

Imho that is just plausible deniability, just asking questions style shit. So news papers can keep writing 'his politics are so vague, we don't know' while he keeps unbanning fascists on twitter.