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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] mii@awful.systems 22 points 5 months ago (16 children)

Oh look, Elon openly snuggling up to Nazis and "just asking questions". As if I didn't hate this clown enough.

(For anyone out of the loop: the AfD is a far-right political party in Germany and the spiritual successor to the NSDAP. They're praising the SS, advocate for legalization of holocaust denial and historical revisionism, removal of hate crimes from the code of law, and more. They're so openly Nazis that they got kicked out of the EU parliament's far-right ID coalition for being too fucking Nazi. There's no leeway. They're literal card-carrying national socialists.)

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 20 points 5 months ago

They want to ban kosher food and circumcision, but love the Israeli government and the war on Gaza, which says... so many things, about so many people.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

he's been openly a nazi propagandist pretty much since he took over twitter. they are hiding black crime stats from you.png, "this is the actual truth," etc. without saying "I am literally a Nazi" or "we should do holocaust" I genuinely don't know how much more open he can be about it

[–] maol@awful.systems 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Henry Ford of our generation.

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[–] null@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Notice that he, of course, does not list any of those "policies" that he's "read".

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Conservative: I have been censored for my conservative views. Me: Holy shit! You were censored forwanting lower taxes? Con: LOL no...no not those views. Me: So....deregulation? Con: Haha no not those views either. Me: Which views, exactly? Con: Oh, you know the ones

(for mastodon users who don't get the image: it's Andrew Lawrence's "you know the ones" tweet)

[–] johne@denvr.social 12 points 5 months ago

@mii
I really didn't think the second part of "Those who don't learn history" was going to be so literal.

[–] ebu@awful.systems 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm missing something.

translation: thinking about this too much, or at all really, would be disastrous for my political ideology and ego, so someone else please waste their time and energy typing up a reply i won't read, so i can continue having the image of an intellectual engaged in vigorous debate without actually having to do anything

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I suspect Elon's pretty comfortable with his political ideology and ego, tbh. But I agree with the second part.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago

Imho that is just plausible deniability, just asking questions style shit. So news papers can keep writing 'his politics are so vague, we don't know' while he keeps unbanning fascists on twitter.

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This fucking thread on HN right now.

OP is an enlightened freelance webdeveloper who is very scared about ghosts from their computer.

"I find myself in a unique position here, as my diverse background and experiences have given me a perspective that allows me to see the potential impact of AI more clearly than large parts of the society I'm living in"

Another poster is also very scared about ghosts from the computer and converted their entire net-worth into NVidia shares. Now that they are heavily invested in a company deeply entangled with ghosts from the computer the apocalypse basically has to happen. After all it couldn't be that they overreacted.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 5 months ago

Computer ghost phobia:

spooked by AI 🤝 Falling for jump scare flash games

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] mii@awful.systems 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Proof that pasta doesn't exist:

  • An atom isn't pasta.
  • Adding an atom to something that isn't pasta doesn't make it pasta.
  • Therefore nothing is pasta.
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[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 19 points 5 months ago

I wonder if we can start requiring history of science, philosophy, and literary & artistic theory classes in secondary school (or at least before giving out doctorates), just to limit incredibly annoying adults who think they're geniuses. I also thought I invented brain-in-a-vat thought experiments when I was ten, but I don't opine on them reinvented from first principles.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] ebu@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

maybe you're referring to when i brought it up in last week's thread? and yeah, this is basically the same

can't wait for AI bros to invent the trolley problem

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 17 points 5 months ago
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

CW:
spoilerDongs, Blood and Thunder, Victory at Sea, Child birth, Scented Candles

So yeah...remember that manly Roko post from last week where he manplained how much men don't need women? Oglaf did it first.

This is Roko's ideal future; Roko's Modern Life, if you like.

(NSFW)

https://www.oglaf.com/dark-miasma/ (part 1 of 24 lol)

https://www.oglaf.com/burningjewels/

But nature finds a way:

https://www.oglaf.com/honor/

https://www.oglaf.com/son-of-kronar/

https://www.oglaf.com/son-of-kronar/2/

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 14 points 5 months ago (10 children)
[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This has got to be some sort of sucker filter, like it's not that he particularly means it, it's that he is after the exact type of rube who is unfazed by naked contrarianism and the categorically preposterous so long as it's said with a straight face,.

Maybe there's something to the whole pick up artistry but for nailing VCs thing.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

iterm2 update, moving the shit out of the core application (like it probably should've been in the first place):

3.5.1

This release adds some safety valves to eliminate
the risk of private information leaving the
terminal via the AI endpoints. While an API key
and explicit user action were always needed to use
AI features, some users asked for an impenetrable
firewall for safety and regulatory purposes.

To that end, there are three relevant changes:

1. Code that communicates with AI providers such
as OpenAI has been moved into a plugin that you
must install separately. Enterprise system admins
can block bundle id com.googlecode.iterm2.iTermAI
to prevent it from being installed in the first
place.

See here for details:
https://iterm2.com/ai-plugin.html

2. In addition, you must manually enable AI
features in Settings. Doing so requires admin
access.

3. Enterprise administrators who wish to disable
iTerm2's AI access may set the user default
GenerativeAIAllowed to False in their MDM systems.

still never received a reply email from the author to my mail. wonder what they think/have learned of this experience tho

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 11 points 5 months ago (9 children)

I'm afraid their character has been exposed

I uninstalled when they announced it but this week's news says it's time to uninstall macos too

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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] FredFig@awful.systems 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40631663

Orange site post with a bunch of people saying burnout is a learning experience and that its okay to be perpetually depressed because it makes you more disruptive.

I don't have anything clever to say about this.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

shitty 4k upscales, coming soon for a favourite film near you! (via kottke)

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Come to think of it, yeah, the people that need things to be in 8k 144Hz in order to enjoy them would absolutely be fine with AI igniting the atmosphere in the name of high quality pixels

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[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 12 points 5 months ago

New AdamSomething about tech bros reinventing the train but worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5M7Oq1PCz4

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 12 points 5 months ago (5 children)
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[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

need a meme image that represents the way Apple is legitimising openai after all the crypto degens were desperate for apple to legitimise nfts. the jealous hot mess rejected for another hot mess

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[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago (7 children)
[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 18 points 5 months ago

"The smile. The optimism. Versus the steely 1000 yard stare.

Ideology preformed in the instant of conception

Physiognomy, simply, does not lie."

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lawrence Lessig falls victim to the siren song of the blarney engines. Also, lol cnn

Many people refer to concerns about the technology as a question of “AI safety.” That’s a terrible term to describe the risks that many people in the field are deeply concerned about. Some of the leading AI researchers, including Turing Prize winner Yoshua Bengio and Sir Geoffrey Hinton, the computer expert and neuroscientist sometimes referred to as “the godfather of AI,” fear the possibility of runaway systems creating not just “safety risks,” but catastrophic harm.

And while the average person can’t imagine how anyone could lose control of a computer (“just unplug the damn thing!”), we should also recognize that we don’t actually understand the systems that these experts fear.

Companies operating in the field of AGI — artificial general intelligence, which broadly speaking refers to the theoretical AI research attempting to create software with human-like intelligence, including the ability to perform tasks that it is not trained or developed for — are among the least regulated, inherently dangerous companies in America today. There is no agency that has legal authority to monitor how the companies develop their technology or the precautions they are taking.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/opinions/artificial-intelligence-risks-chat-gpt-lessig/index.html

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