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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 117 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Sharing this here because the difference in responses to this guilty verdict couldn't be more stark. During his time in office, Trump pardoned close associates of various crimes. Out of a sense of integrity, Biden has said he won't pardon his son.

The charges are absurd, but he was found guilty by a jury of his peers, and Biden won't put his thumb on the scales.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 81 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Trump put his children in the white house, making them politically relevant. If Trump had said anything about pardoning his children, thst would have been political news.

Hunter has nothing to do with politics other than Republicans trying to equate having children with nepotism. This is not politics.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Conservatives love making children political though.

  • Having sex but don't want children? You're a godless slut.

  • Pregnant and don't want children? You're not capable of making decisions about your body.

  • Had an abortion? You're an evil baby killing slut.

  • Have children you don't want? You're a slut who shouldn't have sex if you couldn't feed your kids.

  • Child of a Democratic president going through awkward teenage years? You're a horse face, Chelsea Clinton.

  • Try to reach American soil to claim asylum? We're gonna keep your kids in cages, argue in front of a judge that we're not obligated to give them any hygienic items like soap or toothpaste, and deport you. Hope your home country isn't as dangerous as you thought it was!

  • You're a loving couple in a committed relationship who want to adopt one of the many "unwanted" children in our foster system? Get fucked queers; our god says only the straights get to enjoy being parents.

  • Your child needs medical care? Why should my tax dollars pay for that?

  • Your local public school sucks? Well maybe you should have been able to afford private tuition to a school that definitely doesn't exist because public schools were forced to integrate. Oh, and we're gonna siphon more money out of your kids' school to pay for ours- that tuition ain't cheap, you know.

And, for international flavor:

  • You don't want your kids to be genocided by Israel? Then maybe they shouldn't have been one of the more than 50% of Gaza's population who either weren't born or weren't old enough to vote 16 years ago when Hamas held their last election.
[–] snooggums@midwest.social 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, conservatives love pretending that non-political things are political. Per your examples having children is political, which would make the term political meaningless if we let them define political.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

We need to stop politicising politics, clearly.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump, under a clear and disgusting display of nepotism, put his completely unqualified family members into positions of power.

Fixed that for you.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

What did that fix?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I completely agree. Just like I agreed with Fetterman for defending Boebert’s kids from public judgement. These people aren’t politicians. They don’t deserve the press scrutiny of a politician.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The charges are absurd

Why? Lying on the gun purchase background check form is a felony. It says so right above the signature line on the form. The evidence he lied on the form looks pretty strong.

I do realize the crime is not prosecuted often, but that seems like a mistake. The Charleston church shooter, for example should have failed his background check and been prosecuted for the same crime.

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Theres no way to prove beyond a reasonable doubt he was on substances when he purchased the firearm. The form asks if you're a USER of drugs. If he was not using substances when he was buying the firearm, he didn't lie.

That's fine. If this is now precedent, the government needs to go and retroactively charge all users, and not just a spotlight democrat.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

27 CFR § 478.11 addresses that. The court is not making new law here.

Such use is not limited to the use of drugs on a particular day, or within a matter of days or weeks before, but rather that the unlawful use has occurred recently enough to indicate that the individual is actively engaged in such conduct. A person may be an unlawful current user of a controlled substance even though the substance is not being used at the precise time the person seeks to acquire a firearm or receives or possesses a firearm.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Right, the charges aren’t absurd at all. No one is above the law; not Hunter, not Trump. It applies to everyone. The evidence was provided to a jury of his peers, and they determined that that evidence proved his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good, it's less the right can point to and say biden is a hypocrite on.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who cares if they do? They literally lie to slander the "radical left" as they call it. They're shameless and half the eligible voters are too.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That saying of you don't stoop to your enemies tactics means a lot here. Just because they do illegal shit, doesn't mean everyone else should just say fuck it. Someone has to uphold the law. If the law is unjust then change the law

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago

Exactly. Don't uphold the law to avoid being shamed by Republicans. Do it because it's the right thing to do and because it's extremely important to the integrity of our society.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd bet a large sum of money at least one dunce makes that claim.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

They go low, we go high.

And they get the Supreme Court: https://youtu.be/MAbab8aP4_A