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[–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I dunno. I'm gonna say it wasn't complete trash. It's still better than Nemesis.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The problem with 5 is that it was the the movie directly following 4 and 5 lacked whales so it was doomed from the start.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

True, 4 did indeed have whales in the sky, just like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. There were zero references to towels or intergalactic highways in Star Trek 5.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I certainly had an easier time believing Laurence Luckinbill was Leonard Nimoy's half-brother than I did believing that Tom Hardy was Patrick Stewart's clone.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for saying that! When Nemesis came out and for years afterwards people praised Tom Hardy. I seemed to be the only one who disliked it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He was fine in terms of performance because he's a decent actor, he just did not in any way convince me he was a Picard clone. You could claim that this was because of his time with the Remans or whatever, but it just seemed like a needless plot idea that just didn't work. In fact, if Shinzon was just a rebel Romulan, it might have been a better movie.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

First time I ever watched it I completely missed that he was supposed to be Picard. He was just an annoying bad guy to me. He just does not look or act like him at all. Great actor. Wrong part.

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Off-road dune buggy's! Off-road dune buggy's! Mounted laser gun!

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's faint praise but I agree. I tried to rewatch Nemesis during lock down and didn't make it to the end.

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

For the best, given how depressing the end is

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

You know, I’d personally rate V above Nemesis, Insurrection, Generations, and Into Darkness… and that still feels like very faint praise. Star Trek has had some pretty lousy movies over the years.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those 2 are generally regarded as the bottom of the barrel.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The scummy layer just above them.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago
[–] constantokra@lemmy.one 8 points 3 months ago

Hard disagree, but you still got my upvote because of Garak.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

better than Nemesis

Excuse me? Nemesis had a cool crash scene in it

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Exactly. It also has pretty nice cover art too!

Edit: I just thought of another good thing about Nemesis. The DRV/ Blu Ray versions can be used as a Frisby!

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Also works as a coaster for those huge coffee mugs.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

That’s not an advantage compared to V. V’s Laser Disc release makes a far better frisbee.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Picard TNG: I allowed myself to be abducted by aliens, spent two days forced to defend myself with an alien against a monster, refused all offers to just go home, and dealt with his babbling about Tamak and Jiled at Tongra. All because I recognize that peace and corporation between species is much more important compared to my life. I understand that I am not god and I don't make a decision who lives and dies. I have faith in the inherit goodness and rationality of sentient life so even if I don't understand why they are doing something I know they have a good reason. I am an explorer and an ambassador of peace.

Picard Nemesis: I am going to drive around on a planet and if some alien, possibly just defending their home, growls at me I will shoot them with a gun. Then leave their corpse there making zero effort to understand why they even attacked me. I am a thug who only understands how to kill effectively. Send me into battle and I will make sure there are no survivors.