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[–] null@slrpnk.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

"Real" in that they are just a social construct, like race.

[–] Technological_Elite@lemmy.one -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

This information was incorrect, and I rest my case. Here is the comment with sources: https://lemmy.one/comment/10802073

~~Race is skin color and the region of where someone was born or inherited traits passed down through children.~~

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Technological_Elite@lemmy.one 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This information was incorrect, and I rest my case. Here is the comment with sources: https://lemmy.one/comment/10802073

~~It does. " because of such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin …"

It's been a long time since I've read the definition of "race", but it is at the very least heavily correlated with skin color.

Discrimination against someone by their skin color isn't called "racism" for nothing.~~

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Not in the definition; usage is not the definition:

Usage of Race

Sense 1a of this entry describes the word race as it is most frequently used: to refer to the various groups that humans are often divided into based on physical traits, these traits being regarded as common among people of a shared ancestry. This use of race dates to the late 18th century, and was for many years applied in scientific fields such as physical anthropology, with race differentiation being based on such qualities as skin color, hair form, head shape, and particular sets of cranial dimensions. Advances in the field of genetics in the late 20th century determined no biological basis for races in this sense of the word, as all humans alive today share 99.99% of their genetic material. For this reason, the concept of distinct human races today has little scientific standing, and is instead understood as primarily a sociological designation, identifying a group sharing some outward physical characteristics and some commonalities of culture and history.

It’s always helpful to learn.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All of which is entirely arbitrary. Why didn't you include hair color, or eye color, or height?

[–] Technological_Elite@lemmy.one 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I simply just didn't think of it. I also said "Gotcha." to the other dude, acknowledging their side is (from what I can see and understand) is right. I rest my case. I'll edit my messages too.

[–] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I simply just didn't think of it

Nobody would consider hair color, eye color, or height among people with the same skin color as part of their "race" -- that's the point I was making.

[–] Technological_Elite@lemmy.one 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. They still have some correlation though, important to note that.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If my brother has red hair and is 6 feet, and I have brown hair, and am 5 feet, we would still be the same race, so no, there's no correlation to race there, nor is it important to note. Because race is a social construct.