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I'm more interested in the headline about Trump lying during the debate. Not that I doubt it. But more about how the sum total of the response to it is basically "ah well nevertheless".
This is supposed to not only be a democracy, but also THE democracy and all other democracies that are not this democracy are not democracies. Meanwhile a dude just gets on a podium, spews bullshit on national televison debate and gets off scott free. How do western chauvinists live with this.
I assume that it'll probably take at least a few days to work out an exhaustive list, but yeah if you were the new york crimes you'd think you could maybe put your in-progress article on the front page.
CNN had a fact checker after the debate itemize over 30 lies Trump said within the hour. He also said Biden had like 9 lies but never itemized them. I imagine because they were incomprehensible.
It's not lying if you're not making any sense in the first place
Some of the online ones tried to do the Biden ones but the numbers ended up being anywhere between 10-25 depending on whether you counted him changing, correcting, or uncorrecting statistics again later and how generous they were in just going 'that was less a lie and more just nonsense'.
They did itemize them, they were mostly misstatements or inaccuracies, but some were bad wrong.