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shut the fuck up liberal
perhaps more eloquent and succinct than my response
Y'all are the two wolves in me.
when it comes to hexbear users, be nice and thoughtful and give benefit of doubt, when its anybody else that comes in here with some stupid liberal bullshit treat them like shit, fuck them
A pithy response, to be sure, but rather lacking in any noticable thought.
The reality, as it stands, is that, baring any unforseen events, come January one of either Biden or Trump will be the president of the United States of America. This is, to put it mildly, suboptimal, however it is pretty much inescapable at the present time. Assuming you are elegible to vote in the upcoming ekection, any action, or inaction, on your part will have an effect on the totals. Whether that effect actually carries any weight will be down to whether you're in a swing area, which, again, is suboptimal but won't change between now and then.
The time to change these underlying facts is after the election, pushing one, or both, parties to change their policies for the next election, or even the one after. They can't/won't make actual, meaningful changes before November in fear of scaring their base voters, so change is going to be slow, and needs to start at the grassroots level. Persuade enough voters that the change you want is needed and they'll be more inclined to vote for those who support those changes.
Reddit brain
you are fucking lost if you see this shit and think the answer to this is more electoral bullshit forever
What alternative approach would you personally suggest? Let's rule out abandoning elections or anything of that nature as I really don't think you'd get far with that.
What system/process do you want to see, and how do we get there from here? This is a genuine question, not some sort of gotcha.
Labour, our power has always been our labour.
You need a working class movement that sees the Senate and the Supreme Court for the bullshit it is, but tbh I don't have any faith in that for America because of people like you.
You're right, in that labour is the power we bring. How would you go about mobilizing that? How do you propose convincing enough people to agree with you and to pull in the same direction?
Shut the fuck up reddit