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[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bunch of landed aristocrats acting in self interest is exactly who you expect to found the ultimate dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and why the whole 'its a republic' sorts just play into it heavier than most. They were heavy into mysticism (John Dee comes to mind as one of their mystical inspirations, though they used that Rousseau and whatever else Enlightenment thinker fraternity of humanity concept as just lip service and its nothing but white Christian supremacy ever more codified in ever more obscure legal jargon), since economically its required to have that degree of dissonance and act on it, since if you're too rational you don't fall for such simplicity and realize its short sighted to try to steal from so many to benefit so few and think you're better than everyone else and generally be immune to but the most idle dreams of selfcrit. I don't buy 'hurr durr it was meant to be a living document', that idle argument doesn't line up to English derived legal system imo.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

that Rousseau and whatever else Enlightenment thinker fraternity of humanity concept as just lip service and its nothing but white Christian supremacy ever more codified in ever more obscure legal jargon

This is unironically the source of all that talk of “egalitarian values” that the US laughably claims it has. According to Settlers “freedom and egalitarianism” always meant “egalitarianism” among the bourgeoisie. We have our class interests so old money nepo babies need to work alongside lesser bourgeoisie that own car dealerships. One colonist even laughed at how the colonies are a utopia because all the “citizens” (white settlers) didn’t have to work.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

look i want to respect your basic human dignity but uh these ancient slavers said that i cant sorry