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I mean I do care about it in the sense that I care about not wanting the US to become even more of a white supremacist Christian fascist imperialist genocidal autocracy than it already is. But I don't see anything I can do about it that would be even remotely effective. And more than that I just don't see anyone else who actually cares about it enough to even try to do something about it so what good is me "caring" even supposed to do?

Now I do see a lot of white liberals (and "progressives", and even some white people who consider themselves leftists) panicking about it. But then when pressed about what is to be done to stop it, their solution is always, always, ALWAYS just "vote for (Genocide) Joe", which tells me they don't actually care about Project 2025, they just want to use it as a cudgel to get me to vote for the same ghouls who are blowing up Palestinians and who have let the spooky scary Republican Party get this powerful. But when I point out to them that they obviously don't really care because they aren't interested in addressing the roots of fascism or doing anything real to stop fascism, they get all indignant and upset at me, call my takes "disturbing", "monstrous", "privileged", "psychotic", and after getting that a bunch I do have to wonder if maybe I just have some massive blind spot and am getting this wrong. But they won't tell me what is actually factually wrong about what I say.

Besides, what do they want me to do about it? They can't seriously expect me to back a party that loves genocide, but they won't suggest anything else.

Idk I just feel like the majority of people I see raising a fuss about Project 2025 and the threat of a "Trump dictatorship" are comfortable, privileged white liberals, usually white queer liberals, who have never had to worry about the government targeting their demographics until the last few years. I and every other queer poc I know is like, "oh, they're going to go after me for another thing? Sure whatever, put it on the pile of other shit they throw at us, what's one more? Now let's get back to trying to stop the fascist Democratic Party from stealing money from our paychecks to bankroll a genocide against some of the actual most vulnerable and oppressed people in the world. If Project 2025 actually lands here we'll fight that too, but we will NEVER throw away our solidarity with the wretched of the earth to preserve what comfort we do have."

Please Hexbearians, tell it to me straight: Is Project 2025 something we actually need to pay attention to and if so what can we actually do about it? Or is the furor over it just a bunch of fragile white people panicking because they might finally be lumped in with the rest of us and finally get targeted for oppression too?

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[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

you are not wrong. Project 2025 is just a silly name for where america is going regardless of which color tie the president wears. The dems wont stop it happening or even slow it down a meaningful amount. They are handwringing about but at the same time they are helping it along.

If the libs start barking at you about 2025 just tell them "scotus overturning wade and enshrining presidential immunity happened while the dems were in power and had ways to stop it but didn't. The dems have proven that they either dont care about project 2025 or are purposefully helping it along."

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

Even the absolutely most charitable interpretation - that the Dems do care but are incapable of resisting - is illuminating. Cause then the rational thing to do is demand they be replaced by people who do have that dog in them. Of course, deep down Dem voters know this is not up for debate. It’s why they feel harassing random strangers on the internet to vote is a more viable strategy.