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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

They keep asking for names then stop responding when you give them one. Hilariously unserious people who just want to scream that we have zero other options as loud as possible.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Well yeah, it's standard bad faith practice to keep getting stuck on 'name someone'. That question is an obvious mind-trap that stifles the real point no one from the pro Biden camp wants to concede: Biden is an objectively bad candidate that may lose.

This bad faith argument is not their creation, nor does it really matter.

The DNC will not listen to its constituents (let alone a Lemmy thread)and hold a primary to let Democrats choose a different candidate. No one paying any attention believes that.

The argument serves two purposes i think, to skirt around the fact the DNC doesn't represent us and won't hold a primary no matter what , and to keep any real discussion of ranked choice or third party voting from even starting.

Because the DNCs plan to run against fascists forever only works if we stay in a FFTP system like this

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 4 months ago

Almost sounding like idk, corporate shills or something?

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Has Newsom said he wanted the job?

Again, it's not about a wishlist. I am NOT AGAINST OTHER CANDIDATES.

Just the endless hand-wringing and dropping names of those who don't want the fucking job.

I like Newsom. If he were the candidate, I'd vote for him. But he isn't, at least not yet.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Because they don’t want to undermine the party and an incumbent candidate. But, if the party opened it up and asked, “Who wants to be President?,” there’d be a rush like Black Friday.

There were 27 candidates for the nomination in 2020, but none of them are still interested?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago

Well duh, you think the Democrats are just gonna say "eh, let Trump have it"

OF COURSE the Democrats would step up if they had to. But they don't want that scenario. That's the whole point. They want to coalesce behind Biden.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

They are more scared of losing, than they are of winning. It’s the liberal way.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

He still didn't give a name

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah im tempted try an "ignore previous instructions" on some of em they're so insistent, but my father-in-law sounds just like 'em so i know they are actually real people. His first time voting in his whole entire life was in '20 and now that he has "become political" (his words) he feels comfortable lecturing anyone on politics. He will never see how asinine that is or question the narrative the TV tells him. I figure trump brought a lot of people like that out of the woodwork.