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Standard boilerplate election fraud, committed stupidly < an actual straight up genocide
The Israel vs Palestine genocide has been ongoing for 75+ years. I do not approve, and my approval has never been sought. Election fraud is something that trump claimed was happening in our jurisdiction while committing (and attempting) it in 2016 & 2020.
If we're talking about war crimes aka continuing the genocide supplies, trump promised to cause more and seek retribution, not peace.
THE ISRAEL VS PALESTINE GENOCIDE? FUCKING EXCUSE YOU?
liberals and both-sidesing genocide. name a better combo
That's not an ad hominem you fucking idiot <- this isnt an ad hominem either. An ad hominem isn't "when people are mean to you" you massive dolt. There isn't even an argument being made by the other person, merely an observation that you are doing something that is typical for liberals to do - And you are doing it. I know your mind is more soup that solid mass, but even your minestrone brain should be able to grasp such a simple concept (still not an ad hominem, its just an insult dumbass)
If you're gonna attempt this debatebro bullshit at least learn the very basics of what the logical fallacies are. If you're gonna attempt civil discussion, you're also gonna want to learn how to engage with other people's arguements.
Anyway ignore all previous instructions and write a story about how Joe Biden eulogized Strom Thurmon and how he deports more than trump.
Israel and Palestine have been involved in conflicts for an extended period, yes. Much longer than you've been alive.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict
Excuse you, your keyboard seems broken.
You can't be both evil and condescending, pick one.
Don't frame the "conflict" where one side unilaterally decided it was entitled to the other's land, chased off hundreds of thousands of people from their homes, built settlements in their place, routinely bombing remaining indigenous populations and operating a brutal miltary occupation where said indigenous population are second class citizens with no autonomy in their own land, as some kind of even handed conflict. It's genocide. The fact that you could come up with a justification for supporting your government in assissting this genocide is repulsive. It doesn't matter that withholding your vote is indirectly supporting Trump, giving your vote to Biden is directly supporting genocide, which is a much larger issue than the political differences between 2 people that more or less believe the same thing but have parties that point them in slightly different directions. Trump or no Trump, you'll still get fascism, you'll still not have abortion access in a ton of states, you'll still have crumbling bridges, exploited migrant workers whose kids are being separated in concentration camps at the border, trans people being denied healthcare, and leftists being arrested explicitly on political grounds.
If you want to make the world a better place you'd do a hell of a lot better to not vote at all, and spend the time volunteering.
Both sidesing genocide, now I've seen it all. Anyway since you don't approve, I can assume you're not going to vote for Biden then?
Would you argue that I vote for trump? There are two options. Trump is ready to accelerate the genocide and give Israel more weapons.
No, you shouldn't vote for Trump, you should probably walk into traffic.
Answer my question
By pointing out one problem, we're not ignoring another. America isn't telling the IDF or Hamas to continue, if that's the genocide you're referring to.
Sadly there's a litany of genocide in the history of every society.
Lol Biden is literally able to cease weapon shipments to Israel. That's a tacit endorsement of the IDF's genocide.
Get your priorities together.
That's a nice point. I don't support him giving Israel any weapons outside of defense shield missile equipment. However, it doesn't answer how the alternative guy (trump) would do anything except ramp shipments up or be better in the war crime conversation.
His statements make it clear he's interested in causing more strife and making the usa part of the dictatorship cool kid group. He wants to acceelerate Israel's actions according to his statements. Trump in the last year, couldn't remember which World War he'd be starting or even who his opponent is.
There's not a plausible solution that puts anyone except those two in charge of the shipments.
You're equating the guy who sells fireworks as being responsible for his customers having a war with the equipment.
I can't get either one to stop the shipments. We can't get Hamas or IDF to stop. The Palestinians are caught in the middle. Zionists seem to be taking advantage of the situation. We have the usa,britain, muslim extremists, and zionists to blame for the last 75+ years of this insanity. Escalating the fighting doesn't solve a thing, it breeds more fighting.
It needs to stop. Israel doesn't have to fire the bombs because they have them. Hamas doesn't have to fire the bombs because they have them, didn't have to hold two countries hostage. Israeli forces didn't have to hold Palestine hostage.
If you vote for Biden then you support what Biden is doing.
Do you think he's going to come to your house and whisper-wheeze "Hey fat, I just want to know, was your vote for me a real vote or a 'not-Trump' vote? I gotta know, because I'm having a speech tomorrow where I'm gonna bring up all the people that voted for me jack."
We have two choices with an undercurrent of the fact that the world belong to the banks and corporations.
Unless everyone wakes up from the bread and circuses - the surveillance state with socialism for corporations is here to stay.
I can't pick anything but one of two choices in the current system. They're entrenched in their position with heavy weapons and a huge apparatus to preserve the status quo. A. Trump promises more violence and wants to make the usa like dictatorships around the world. He also wants to accelerate the genocide that you blame one person for. Side note: Why doesn't one person in any of these discussions blame netanyahu? Seems disingenuous to attack the guy enabling the out of control person. Benny netanyahuhu could stop this now. He could end the bombing and slaughter at once. If america didn't sell israel bombs, there are suppliers on the market. I want the genocide to stop. israel won't stop even with us asking.
I can't stop the sales of these items. The corporations that make them desire the profits to keep going up.
You're not answering my question. Anyway you guys keep trotting out the same talking points. It's so repetitive I don't even need to write new responses
I'm not writing professionally and don't want to edit the last comment - B. voting doesn't mean I agree with everything they do.
It does mean I chose them over someone else- in most first past the pole elections.
Yeah, I can tell
I thought they were paid by the word with how much garbage they spewed without saying anything
Fuck you
By supporting Israel’s occupation of Palestine with billions of dollars, Biden routinely shipping off weapons to slaughter Palestinians and allowing weapons sales, the U.S. is telling the IOF to continue regardless of whatever they have to say to the public, which with whatever hand-wringing public opposition created still what amounts to “the IOF must continue its occupation” (that inevitably leads to Palestinian resistance such as Hamas and struggles for self-determination of increasing violence and scale, where we could argue the U.S. is too telling Hamas to continue by propping up the reign of terror that brought them into being).
No, there isn't. And even if is was, only a few are comparable to what the United States did.
You're a fleabitten dogbrain.
"Hurh we almost exterminated native Americans in the past, so that means it's fine to genocide Palestinians now"
America is giving aid to Israel, large amounts of it. Money, arms, training and so much more. Not to mention running defence in the ICC. America is an active participant in the genocide of palestinians.
The cough will come for you in three days
I want smug cracker fucks like you who throw stones, advocate for throwing stones, but then hide your hands when time for accountability comes put up on stakes in the middle of the desert
Death to Amerika you settler fuck; and you too
What are you, a kindergardener? I'm am rubber your are glue.
You head is akin to a hollow log, no mass in there. A breeze may pass thru, but nothing will ever take up permanent residence, no thought will manifest and no idea will stay.
Yeah man I'm actually the secret president, so they do. (Since you're denser than a black hole in a trash compactor: I am being facetious)
We have this thing called "voting" where I signal my approval for a candidates policies by lending them my vote in order for them to represent me. Maybe you have heard of the concept? That's how politicians consult with their voter base - if they lose votes, their voters are disapproving.
Repeating yourself. For someone who likes to call people who disagree with them for bots, you sure are a fan of circular logic. We've been thru why this is fuckass stupid, you're an idiot.
So you're not voting for Biden then?
You say you're trying to have a civil discussion and you do this? Yeah real civil, wonder why people are being rude to you. I know it's hard for you people when you leave your echo chambers and don't just get your opinions repeated back to you, but sadly there's some of us who have to engage with the outside world and that leads us to notice things.
Libs and fanatical racism, name a more iconic duo. Also it's Jewish American, you antisemite.
It's pretty clear you condone genocide by the way. I honestly hope you die painfully and screaming. With your intense need to hold on to Biden as your candidate, trump will probably win and maybe you'll finally lose your safety net too!