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[–] BlueMacaw@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I actually really like seeing AOC not being one of those “burn the house down” politicians as I knew her when she started

But that's why peopled liked her. Who she is now is basically totally unrepresentative of who she ran as.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

To some degree this is always going to be true when you elect a new person to a new position. Think of it as a video game enthusiast becoming an actual developer.

As someone playing a game, it's really easy to suggest ideas and changes and fixes which sound like simple common sense to do. When you actually see the intricate code however, and how it's structured and run, you realize all your ideas from before aren't as easy to implement as you thought. Your mindset evolves to instead focus on practical solutions which have clear ways to implement.

AOC adopting more practical positions is exactly what you want to see. It shows that she's thinking of how to get those goals done. Bernie operates much the same way.

What would be concerning is someone who goes to Congress for the first time and doesn't change. It would mean they're dishonest about what's actually realistic to get done, and they're just telling you what you want to hear so you'll vote for them.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

This isn't really a progressive politics issue though. The alternative to Biden isn't a progressive, it's an establishment moderate who can reliably form a coherent sentence. I'm disappointed the people with the sharpest critiques of the decay in Democratic politics aren't taking on this fight, but it's not something I'd hold against them. I think whatever was said in that meeting convinced them that nothing would ever make Joe Biden resign. No influence campaigns, no public statements by politicians, no donor rebellions. He'll drive the car off the cliff before he gives up his ego, so they're just trying to see if somehow they can make it work.

I don't agree, but it's a reasonable choice to make if you fully believe the guy holding the party hostage will die before giving in.