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[โ€“] rah@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Wow, 40% are happy with the UK staying outside the EU. That's a lot of people, especially given the continuous stream of newspaper articles crying how terrible and disasterous brexit has allegedly been.

[โ€“] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably because rejoining now means it'll be on very different terms. Luxuries like keeping the Pound would go away

[โ€“] knatsch@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While the UK had a bunch of luxuries, keeping the pound wasn't one of them. Eurozone != EU

[โ€“] sushibowl@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago

Every EU member is obliged to join the eurozone. The EU members who have not yet done so are still to meet the convergence criteria, with the only exception being Denmark who obtained a special exemption (along with the UK) during the negotiation of the original Maastricht treaty.

On the flipside, although Sweden is technically obliged to join the eurozone eventually, it has avoided doing so by intentionally not fulfilling the convergence criteria (by not joining ERM2). Most political parties in Sweden acknowledge it would be in everyone's best interest to join but a national referendum rejected the euro in 2003. The EU seems content to let them do whatever for the time being, so maybe the UK could chart a similar course if it were to rejoin, hypothetically.

Honestly, an overwhelming percentage of that 40% are likely old racist people.

[โ€“] rich@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

I know many people, in the older generation, who would still vote for Brexit.

[โ€“] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You forget not everyone bothers with the news.

[โ€“] doctorfinlay@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep, reading facts gets in the way of good old fashioned jingoism!

[โ€“] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Thing is, not all facts are true. And once you think you're being lied to, there's little chance of being convinced otherwise.

[โ€“] SpacePirate@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[โ€“] insomniac@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Alternative facts!

[โ€“] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Something someone claims as a fact could actually be a lie. Eg, "72% of statements people make on the internet are false" is false, but sounds like a fact to those unaware.

[โ€“] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thing is, not all facts are true.

That seems to be contrary to the standard definition of "fact". Perhaps you meant to say:

People aren't always right when they state something as fact.

[โ€“] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago

Okay, to be pedantic, "not all things presented as fact are true"

[โ€“] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Well that sure changes the message of your first comment..

[โ€“] omginput@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They wanted to go, now they should have to live with it.

[โ€“] Lols@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

id rather international politics be based on whats beneficial as opposed to whatll punish people best