this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2024
94 points (100.0% liked)
chapotraphouse
13502 readers
837 users here now
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank
Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here
Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I'm very genuinely glad it's clearly helpful to you and others, but I personally find these kind of narratives to be negative, bordering on harmful.
Nobody is ever suffering heavily, and then just 'decide to kick ass', like it's just a decision you take. No doubt his recovery from anxiety and depression was a lot more complicated, involved a lot of other people, and was a far longer road, than that. Cool life story and goal, nonetheless.
Having had a friend recently commit suicide I realized my ability to actually influence people and affect change is limited. There was literally nothing anyone could do, he wanted to die and he killed himself. I think about Bucky, he wanted to die, but he decided he help people instead. This is the only point of my comment. I can't save anyone, I can't fix this, all I can do is point out that there is another way.
I totally feel it, I too have had a friend commit suicide and it made me confront a lot of things. It's cool you're sharing these stories and how they inspire you - just saying I find my own interpretation a bit different, that's all.
yeah that shit is toxic as fuck. what do these dorks think happens when someone tries the bullshit and fails? survivorship bias is a helluva drug
I'm sorry that my attempting to help someone is toxic as fuck. It really hurts me to hear this. I guess I'll log of for a while.
it's noble but frequently misguided. Don't uncritically valorize "attempting to help". redditors posting the hotline aren't actually helping, the hotline itself is often directly harmful to people in crisis, and something like pouring water on a grease fire is going to make it worse 100% of the time.
"inspirational" willpower from nothing stories aren't reproducible and are horrible to hear as someone who's been horribly depressed for 2/3 of their shit life and has no useful agency or power.
I think it's unfair to respond like this. I'm not a fan of the story either, personally, but it's clearly a story that some people really do derive value from, even if you and I don't.
it's unfair to think anyone can just hoist themselves to famous scientist Buckminster Fuller's drive and achievements and it blows to have that lib shit coming from comrades
Except they didn't say 'anyone can just hoist themselves', they just said it's something they think about a lot. They were empathising and sharing a story they found helpful, that was all.