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President Biden said in an interview released on Wednesday that he would re-evaluate whether to stay in the presidential race if a doctor told him directly that he had a medical condition that made that necessary.

Mr. Biden has said repeatedly that none of his doctors have told him he has a serious medical condition. Dr. Kevin O’Connor, the White House physician, wrote after the president’s physical in February that Mr. Biden is “a healthy, active, robust, 81-year-old male who remains fit to successfully execute the duties of the presidency.”

But his disastrous performance at a debate with former President Donald J. Trump last month, which prompted a wave of calls by Democratic allies to step aside, raised questions about his health and acuity.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 204 points 3 months ago (6 children)

This sounds very much like him setting up a scenario where he can step down without losing face. God, I hope.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 42 points 3 months ago

Would be best case scenario would show maturity and unity for the party.

This thread pulling bullshit everywhere else is so fuckin fake

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Much better than the earlier requirement of God himself descending from the heavens to tell him to drop out. After which he'd only consider it.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

Now the Almighty can work in subtler ways like it usually does.

[–] FPSkra@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He started with only God Almighty could make him step down...moved to if polls said there was no path to victory...now we are here....it feels like he's warming up to the idea.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully they can decide swiftly on the democrat convention and Biden can rally the Democrat party united behind one younger more energetic candidate fit to lead the country

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Party leaders and mega donors seem to have coalesced around Harris. So if it happens it'll be quick. I sincerely hope he's actually healthy and this is a managed exit.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Ugh. Harris? Really? Why not Dean while we're at it

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Party leaders and mega donors seem to have coalesced around Harris.

"Democracy"

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah. But it's not like Biden was the product of a robust democratic process either.

[–] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I sure hope not. Harris is a sure fire way to a Trump presidency.

How about Mark Kelly?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mark Kelly isn't well known outside Arizona. And I dunno about Harris being a loser here. The biggest complaint about Biden is his age. And she solves that.

[–] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm impressed you came this far back. We work with what we know when we know it. In hindsight she ran a shit campaign that tried to tell her base they were wrong and get Republicans to switch sides. Shockingly, neither of those are winning strategies.

[–] Rutty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Viewed from a historical perspective, it’s hard to see how the non-incombent didn’t have a really good advantage.

Hindsight can always be 20/20, and think a Buttigieg/Kelly ticket would have done a bit better. Buttigieg has been in charge of infrastructure, which I believe has been well run. He’s from the rust belt, and is more familiar with the working class vs the candidate with California Progressive with a DA background.

Ultimately though, I think the fault lies with the Democratic Party hijacking the primary process.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, we should have run a snap national primary.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

democratic convention

Democratic party

FTFY

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

God works in mysterious ways. Well, I guess it's not that mysterious that an 84 year old man who attends a lot of public events got COVID.

[–] FPSkra@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

What's the over under on it turning into long COVID which gives him a graceful out.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Honest question: is that like…. actually a good idea? Probably? What if they decide to replace him with Harris that sounds worse idk

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 17 points 3 months ago

Infighting to replace him is a terrible idea.

Him just retiring in favor of Harris or whoever? Better. Still absolutely horseshit considering no one seriously put their hat in the ring for the convention but whatever gets a president that supports universal healthcare and isn't sunsetting.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's probably the less bad option at this point, let's put it that way. Harris is not great, but she lacks much of the baggage and hasn't lost the confidence of the party.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I could be pumped for Harris with the right running mate. Who shall it be? Don’t say Bernie.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't know that I could be pumped for Harris unless she pulls off some kind of "Crouching Empty Suit, Hidden Visionary" shit, but I could be pumped for her VP. Unfortunately, I suspect she'll choose a 'moderate' old white Dem guy as her VP to 'balance out' that she's an ethnic minority and a woman.

[–] kittyjynx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Harris/Duckworth would be great. Tammy Duckworth is a combat wounded vet and seems to be pretty good as far as centrist dems go.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Harris/Newsom? Harris/Kinzinger(my mancrush)?

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'd love to see a Harris/AOC pairing ... if only to watch all the rich old white people in leadership have massive shit fits.

That's just a dream at this point tho.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Maybe Sen. Mark Kelly from AZ? He is amazing. Very popular here in AZ. His wife is Gabby Giffords.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can't have AOC yet, VPs go silent and we need her wit!

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

tbf, one of the reasons that Biden had such popularity as vice-president was because he never learned how to go silent

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Point. AOC with a bully pulpit and really really high bar to be fired. That might not be the worst thing.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

A cop and a union buster. A match made in heaven.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oooh...! But Harris Buttigieg would be fun too.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

That could be out of this world.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago

I have two tracks for pumpedness:

  1. Political: Someone with progressive ideas in the White House to represent that portion of the party. Probably not going to happen.
  2. Capability: Someone who feels like a particularly competent messenger with some fight in them. It would be nice to have some Democrats who can competently and accurately tear up this whole fiasco of a political movement. This could happen.
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

please please please (x5) (refrain) please please, yes please, (return to chorus) (bridge) please sir please (return to chorus x2)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

With tears in my eyes, please sir

[–] upside431@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I see this way too