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Like I cannot fucking figure it out and since I'm BANNED ON REDDIT AGAIN I can't post on the one place where someone might actually answer this other than here or I guess the steam forums but fuck the steam forums.

Anyway, I have never, ever, in like hundreds of hours of gameplay, taken territory and not had a secession shortly after that I've had to crush. The turmoil in conquered territory is always >50% and it's basically impossible to build enough to meaningfully affect standard of living to reduce radicals before the secession triggers, especially because of the massive construction penalties from the turmoil.

Like I do not know what I, the player, am supposed to actively do aside from wait for the inevitable secession and crush it. Then it never happens again and the turmoil goes away.

Like am I supposed to just never conquer anything until I have 10000 construction points and can turn the conquered territory into a utopia in a few months? Because the timeline to secession is IMPOSSIBLY short.

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[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is what I'm talking abt when I say videogames are antisocial and reactionary. Look at all the suggestions here on how best to subjugate people in Imperialism Simulator 3000 from people who are anticolonial leftists. Would you play Victoria III if it included images of all the charred corpses and starving masses your actions create? Stop allowing yourselves to be sucked into a skinner box designed to normalize evil.

[–] Starlet@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tells someone to touch grass

writes essay about how playing video game makes you imperialist

monke-beepboop

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

I don't know u ppl irl but I know you're all good people who deserve to be freed from vidya.

[–] Starlet@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

okay done. took me like 2 minutes. what now ?

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Starlet@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

do you genuinely believe pretending to own a farm on my computer is reactionary or are you just acting like you think that

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think the devs or players of stardew valley are bad people, and I do think it does avoid the reactionary subculture that forms around most games. There is still something antisocial about playing a game where you have a computer simulate a crude simulacra of human interaction and a sense of community. At best it's a way to cope with the atomized hell world we live in, at worst it fucks up your perception of the world and takes time away from actually engaging with the world it mimics.

[–] Starlet@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, what about, like, any Mario game? Is there a reason you believe this applies to all computer games and not all movies?

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Movies and TV and even books also pose some of the same danger. The closer somthing mimics human interaction without actually being human interaction the more antisocial it is. Maybe mario party or something where you're meant to play it with friends in person can be the exception. The other mario games are empty time sinks on par with doomscrolling tiktok or ig without the agitation. Your time is still better spent clubbing or something.

[–] Starlet@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The other mario games are empty time sinks on par with doomscrolling tiktok or ig without the agitation

What you're describing is called "fun"

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

do drugs instead.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is still something antisocial about playing a game where you have a computer simulate a crude simulacra of human interaction and a sense of community.

So true. I will get together with people to pretend to be vampires and knights and elves and go on magical adventures instead of doing the same thing on the computer

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah that is significantly better. TTRPGS are an actual social event where you interact with real people and see their faces and shit. Please go do that. But also in DnD in particular you're literally larping ethnic cleansing the ~~brown~~ greenskins

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

stop trying to sound like adorno without actually knowing anything about cultural critique. you come across pea brained

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't know who that is. don't care. uninstall steam and go touch grass.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh I'm so sorry I colonized somewhere and ended slavery and made them communist

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"colonialism and chauvinism is fun and cool actually"

Lessons you learn from vidya.

[–] readoncontradiction@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s Joe Biden when my historically accurate 1850 Joe Biden Empire conquers the world and kills all the Palestinian landowners

fucking exactly

I'm sorry you can't roleplay a society where you make all the landowners revolt against you, kill all the landowners, ban slavery, and build the world that should have been?

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is what I'm talking abt when I say videogames are antisocial and reactionary. Look at all the suggestions here on how best to subjugate people in Imperialism Simulator 3000 from people who are anticolonial leftists. Would you play Victoria III if it included images of all the charred corpses and starving masses your actions create? Stop allowing yourselves to be sucked into a skinner box designed to normalize evil.

speech-r yells-at-cloud

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

The boomers are the ones who set us on this path.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you play Victoria III if it included images of all the charred corpses and starving masses your actions create?

It already does lol

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hilarious post lol. do one about how sex is reactionary next

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

Porn is reactionary