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I try not to judge people for being victims of the environment we find ourselves in unless they have a lot of material power, but god damn to Chuds of all kinds make me want to shove their heads in a toilet.

Yes you fucking idiot, it's totally queers, poc and women ruining the world and not the insatiable rapacious greed of the rich. You talk about hating wealthy elites while bootlicking the biggest right-wing grifters on the planet. Yes fuckhead, those sigma grindset business moguls that you look up to so much are definitely not wealthy elites, so smart.

You're not a rebel, you're a cynical coward who desperately wants to become the very type of person who is making your life miserable because you're too weak and scared to stand up to the real threat to your freedom, capitalism.

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

you're too weak and scared to stand up to the real threat to your freedom, capitalism.

I don't think that's what they're scared of, they don't see capitalism as a threat to their freedom, even if that might be the case on a long enough timeline. what they're scared of is introspecting and investigating their beliefs, from where their thoughts and opinions originate, to what the real material outcomes would result from them. you might notice that their a lot of their beliefs are based on faulty presumptions (for example, the idea that black americans live in luxury off welfare and social programs) but were you to correct them with the reality (the extent to which poor people of any race benefit from welfare is exaggerated and restricted through things like means testing) they will either deflect by nitpicking about sources and figures or simply stay quiet about it and try to change the topic of conversation.

if they were to do some introspection, it would become obvious that what they want goes against the liberal ideals that have dominated the west since post-WWII like "equality of opportunity" and "all men (people) are created equal", and that if they had to openly confront this, they'd realize their ideology is based on being a selfish asshole, which would at best (for them) invite social ostracism from other people recognizing them for the assholes they are, and at worst cause a whole identity crisis from seeing the contradictions in their ideology.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if they had to openly confront this, they'd realize their ideology is based on being a selfish asshole, which would at best (for them) invite social ostracism from other people recognizing them for the assholes they are, and at worst cause a whole identity crisis from seeing the contradictions in their ideology.

My experience is that they know that their ideology is based on being a selfish asshole, but they are so cowardly and doomer that they have chosen the "if you can't beat them, join them." path and are desperately trying to get rich to "win" the game of capitalism to escape the working class or at least live comfortably. So many of them want to start a business or be an "entrepreneur".

They have sadly bought into the "eat or be eaten" fash brainworms.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

those are the ones that fall in the latter category, where they know they're selfish assholes but try to play along with the fantasy that capitalism is compatible with the liberal ideals of "equality" to prevent being ostracized

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago