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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by kristina@hexbear.net to c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net

Took me a bit and I am a little drunk but here are the totals. We had a good showing.

Note: some comments got cut out because the server doesn't like displaying more than 300 from what I can tell. I did my best with what it would show, I just sorted them by new. This should be fairly representative of the currently active userbase. As an aside, I believe we did a similar survey a looong time ago, and we had only 33% of the active userbase as trans.


Random thoughts:

A lot of people were very very cute and confused and essentially asked me to decide their gender for them. Eggs? Probably. This isn't Harry Potter and I'm not a hat so I just went with what they were sounding more convinced of.

A lot of people are even cuter and don't understand how to follow instructions, though some of this is my fault. Made this a little harder to organize.

Some people were not cis and did not identify with the words 'transgender' or 'gender diverse'. If I ever do a trans/adjacent survey again, I think I will ask 'Are you cis?'

I may do a survey for queer people overall eventually, and the question will be 'Are you cishet?'

I would love to do more scientific, inclusive polling and have better and more questions and options, but we need some good secure polling tech for that, which we don't have. So I just have to ask simple questions and get a handful of answers.

Next time I will look into how feasible it is to post a couple of comments and get responders to upvote certain ones. This might fix the issue of the display of comments being limited.

Since some people have two sets of pronouns, both of their pronouns are included separately.

Since the poll was public, some marginalized groups probably shied away from answering. If we ever get a secure way to poll people, we would get more realistic estimates of the trans and cis women userbase.


#Tallies

Yes: 121 
No: 137
Maybe: 37 
Total: 295

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[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

How do we have so few cis women? Is there even a single one?

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

yeah, theres probably somewhere around 5-15 (and maybe very optimistically, 40-50 per week) daily active cis women based on the numbers here. def an issue that needs to be fixed, along with finding some transmascs. But this is also a public poll and a good number of people are less likely to answer things publicly, so the actual rates are somewhat skewed

to be frank i wouldnt be surprised if we had almost all the cis women on lemmy here, lol. a lot of the other instances do their damndest to run them off (re: even with alleged anti-misogyny rules, they get harassed a ton). i think we need to find a posting vanguard of cis women and trans mascs that lead the charge like how we've done with transfems. over time, by focusing on pronoun tech and building trans specific areas of the site, the trans pop has skyrocketed. just gotta find good ways to flesh that out for other groups. i recall @Othello@hexbear.net i think suggesting identifier emojis for poc people, and i figure just finding some trans mascs and putting them in charge of some communities will also go a long way to building up the trans masc pop. for cis women, im not so sure how to attract more, maybe we can analyze reddit womens communities and see what theyre interested in talking about and setting up specific spots of hexbear for those interests.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

i figure just finding some trans mascs and putting them in charge of some communities will also go a long way to building up the trans masc pop

i can't speak for trans mascs, but a lot of the meme culture here is very trans fem and that might be so dominant that it's pushing other subgroups away.

founding empty comms is always kinda weird to me like i say on comm request sometimes, it's not a limited reseource but if folks aren't already here and talking about something they just fizzle out and the posts would've gained more traction in a bigger comm. i can't remember the last post i saw come through c/menby

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Might just be they're quiet. The internet isn't kind to them. If we weren't so openly accepting of trans people I assume we would have a lot of trans women also being quiet. Being a woman on the internet kind of trains you to not let people know your gender if you don't want to be chased out of a place.

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I ran the math and we have 0.82 definitely-cis women in this survey

the funny part is I'm pretty sure my math is right

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