Blowing up fossil fuel infrastructure is a moronic idea that'll create an environmental disaster worse than the infrastructure existing. Instead, sabotage it so that it stops flowing.
Good point, way less environmental damage to do something about the execs and billionaires in this world
Right?! All the dumbfucks talking about blowing up pipelines want to trade one environmental disaster for another. Its pathetically misguided.
There are two wolves inside me
One wants to discuss the moral obligation to commit acts of sabotage against fossil fuels infrastructure that is killing the planet
The other wants to have good opsec and not possibly incriminate myself for future actions I may or may not be involved in by posting
Disclaimer for any feds reading this: I am a clown and everything I do/say/post is hypothetical and/or for comedy only 
As the situation worsens it's only a matter of time before rampant eco-terrorism, if we're not all too busy dying in water wars of course.
at least we won't be drowning in them
How about a foreign fossil fuel infrastructure first?
-Your friendly neighborhood CIA agent
/s
If you blew up fossil fuel infrastructure, you'd go to jail. The US blew up Nord Stream, nothing happened. We truly live in a society 
It wasn't the US, though.
Yes it was. https://archive.ph/jaqOv
This is garbage.
A US vassal. Same thing.
Honestly reading that I don't see how you can't conclude that at the very least it was Ukrainians with CIA backing. It was a very sophisticated attack, and yet somehow they did it "without the knowledge of the leadership in Kyiv."
How do y'all cope with this
Start small, do sabo stuff like tree spiking first which has this outcome, transition to occupying weapons factories (with an org), gain experience before branching out.
I imagine dying doing some act of eco terrorism and then imagine my soul going to heaven where I meet Vladimir Lenin who calls me a liberal for doing an adventurism and then writes an entire book about how stupid I am
I smell a new tagline!
Are you morally obligated or are you ethically obligated? Or is it both?
Who gives a fuck if you end up on a list? The only list you should be worried about is Santa's good list and that's not for another two months
What happens if I end up on Santa's good list? He blows up my goods?
He gives you free ammo, I guess. Perhaps mortars for the 4th of July next year
If you start being a nudist then they have too see you naked when they spy on you.
Shower with your grandpa Morty
Blowing it up will not stop them as they'd just rebuild. More pollution in the process.
they'd just rebuild
that's why you have to kill the people in charge as well.
Yeah, I assume there's gotta be a better way. Like clogging it beyond repair (shut off+completely solidified), siphoning operations (assuming a spill isn't caused)... And in either case, converting it into something less bad and/or storing the carbon in a stable manner.
(Although even rebuilding from what I see may be at least $1M-$2M per mile, they sure have the money but it's not insignificant either)
Final Fantasy VII
Same thoughts, my mind even came up with a good plan. Drones equipped with remote activated termite pots. It melts through steel easily and fossil fuels burn. You can do this from a distance and it uses cheap available materials. I don't have the guts to do it though... So it remains an Idea.
Thermite pots? Or maybe scary GM termites
I also read that as termite pots and thought @mangoholic was going to follow that up with a pot of spiders.
I highly recommend this excellent film: How to Blow Up a Pipeline
I wouldn't...reeks of fed infiltrates. Plus no point since it's too far gone, read Breaking Together by Jem Bendell instead.
I've looped around to sadomasochism.
Destroy the world! Kill us all! Burn me more daddy!!! 👐 😩 💦
Posadist
If the us and China had a nuclear war the planet might survive.
I watch the Watchmen.
See, by posting this, I'm on the watchlist too. So the watchlist is watching the watchmen watching the watchlist watching the watchmen ad infinitum. If you're asking "watch the fuck?", to explain without using the word watch, I've engaged an infinite mobius surveillance loop.
Side note, by making it to the bottom of this comment, you've all done Dr. Seuss proud.
Monkey Wrench gang gang
In my "First Reformed" era
No watchlists on lemmy post away ;)
I wonder how many of these sabotage memes are started by foreign governments
I struggle every day with the thought that the corporate noose tightening around all of our necks will not be solved unless we as a society begin to provide some real ... 'mortal incentive' to the oligarchs of the world. No way I could ever do it myself, but I understand the need for it now more than ever.
Normally I'm a solutions guy. I shouldn't be coming up with this as a solution for the issues of the world right now, but it's gotten so egregious that the systems we've put in place FOR THE PEOPLE are not working for the people any longer.
Threat of force is a solution.
It's basically what the police exist to do - behave the way we want, or we'll send someone with a gun to take your money, property, freedom, or life.
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