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Good analysis of what options (or lack of) the west has with their commitment to killing Ukranians.

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[–] anteaters@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I did read a bit of that tankie garbage and this is the funniest bit I reached:

For Russia, the war is existential.

Russia can stop murdering Ukrainians at any time without anyone caring for Russian land or the existence of Russia. It's nothing more than a paranoid fantasy that anyone in "the West" would want to invade Russia. They could have just stuck to selling resources to Europe and the rest of the world, but instead they chose to attack their neighbour.

If you really build your world view on a foundation like this article you are completely lost - at least outside Russia. You might make a career in Moscow, though.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ read a fucking book. Russia was invaded twice through its border with Ukraine. Want to guess who did it and why?

The first invasion was Napoleon, of France, of Western Europe, of the North Atlantic. Why? Because it would be beneficial to the Western order to control the resources, eliminate competition, and subjugate the people.

The second invasion was the Third Reich, of Germany, of Western Europe, of the North Atlantic. Why? The same reasons as Napoleon plus two more. One, because European fascism arose in response to the successful creation of the world's first workers' state, the Third Reich was hell bent on not merely controlling Russia but also ending the project for worker states. Second, because the Third Reich sought to replicate the great success of the USA in subjugating natives and blacks and extracting hyperprofits from them without giving them opportunity for revolt and wanted to apply the same program to the Slavs of Eastern Europe and Russia.

In both of those invasions, Russia was under an existential threat and lost a massive number of lives. Both of these invasions were across the border with Ukraine.

Now we have NATO, helmed by the USA (who the Third Reich emulated) staffed originally by literal Nazi officers as part of the USA's leave-behind project which distributed Nazis all over Europe, as part of the larger pattern of the USA's participation in the Nazi project through Operation Gladio and Operation Paperclip. Now we have a nuclear army staffed by Nazis by the country the Nazis emulated that trained Nazis and used Nazis and voted against condemning Nazis and currently has Nazis marching publicly domestically and has been arming and funding Nazis for decades. And that nuclear army has been expanding its presence and logistics and supply chains and recruiting and training operations across Europe and after training and arming Nazis in Ukraine for years and after supporting a coup and hand picking the leader to take the place of the democratically elected leader, after all that, NATO finally has a chance of moving its military presence into Ukraine.

And you don't think that represents an existential threat to Russia? You think the motivations of Napoleon and the Third Reich are gone? You think the economics and geopolitics have changed so much that no one could possibly have any further interests that would lead them to attempting to subjugate Russia?

Read. Do everyone a favor and stop putting your ignorance as though it's a position and read something.

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Biden's polling below Trump in the US (Nov 2024), Sunak is doomed (Jan 2025), and Scholz is leading a flagging economy down the drain (Oct 2025).

Regardless of how people feel about Ukraine, Western support is not indefinite and at some point the Western powers will have to focus their efforts on domestic issues.

[–] NoiseColor@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago

You can't make this stuff up. This has to be trolling, I mean, nobody can be that dumb. Please tell me nobody can be that dumb.