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“The guy is not a democrat with a small d,” the president told CNN's Erin Burnett.

President Joe Biden said in an interview Wednesday he is all but certain Donald Trump, his predecessor and presumptive 2024 rival, will reject the results of the November election and called Trump “dangerous” for the nation.

“The guy is not a democrat with a small d,” Biden told CNN’s Erin Burnett during a visit to Wisconsin this week.

“How many court cases do they have, Supreme Court cases? They’ve all said this is a totally legitimate election. ... He may not accept the outcome of the election? I promise you he won’t. Which is dangerous.”

The president went on to say other world leaders had expressed to him their fear of a second Trump presidency and pointed to Trump’s pledge to prosecute his political opponents if he enters the Oval Office once more.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 188 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Trump called his own win in 2016 rigged and still hasn't accepted losing in 2020. Of course he won't accept the results in the next election whether he wins or loses.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The only way he'll call it legitimate is if the result is literally 100% of the votes are for him.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I suspect Trump is so far under water by now he doesn't know up from down anymore. Can you imagine being 77 years old, in court everyday while managing a presidential bid?

The guy has lived his whole life in the lap of luxury and now you have the entire government analyzing your every move while the only people you interact with are slimey lawyers who think being president makes you a dictator?

So no, I don't think he will accept the election results. If they came back and said Trump won 100% of the popular vote he would probably still find a way to lash out at the DNC.

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[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Didn't he also call the Emmy's rigged because The Apprentice never won?

[–] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 86 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Even if he wins he won't accept any states he lost that he thought he should've won. I could absolutely see a situation where Trump sues one of the Secretaries of State and tries to pull all the same shit he did in Georgia (which he has yet to be punished for, assuming he ever will be)

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Trump will never face any consequences. He is the poster boy for fascism in America that the rich and powerful have been waiting for. Once he destroys democracy, they will swoop in to ensure it never returns.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 6 months ago

Jack London called it in 1908. The Iron Heel hits hard. Brought Orwell to 1984.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

Just like in 2016, he called the election rigged and that he wouldn't accept the results. And then he won, and suddenly, all the wolf cries of "it's rigged" vanished into thin air and they started saying how it was the most significant election of all time, a true underdog come-from-behind win, and wow look how big the crowd size is at my inauguration, I bet Obama didn't pull a crowd like that! Nothing ever mentioned about it being rigged again except for how he should have won by even wider margins than he did.

I fucking hate Trump with every fiber of my body. How stupid do you have to be to look at this guy or listen to him speak and take away anything other than the fact that he's an egomaniac who has never been held accountable for anything in his entire life? If anybody ever says positive things about him in front of me for the rest of my life, that person is dead to me.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago

One super fucked-up thing about it is the President has to say it before they'll publish it.

Like, yeah - you know it, I know it - hell, they know it. But they won't write about what a traitorous fuck he is at all.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 39 points 6 months ago (4 children)

“The guy is not a democrat with a small d,”

But I am!

(Sorry, there was a dick joke to be made, and I could not help myself)

I get what he is saying, but the phrasing could have been better. This seems like something that could be flipped into a campaign slogan that hides the dark undertones of what it actually means.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He won in 2016 and he still didn't accept the result. He spent months insisting that the elections were rigged to prevent him from getting even larger margins, and then he turned the DOJ inside-out to pursue years of "election fraud" investigations intent on keeping a large Republican majority into 2018 (which failed anyway when his fickle white base turned on him).

Of course, Bush pulled the same shit during his time in office, running cover via his own DOJ for dozens of state gerrymandering campaigns (the Texas Gerrymander of 2005 stacked the deck for permanent Republican majority into the modern day). And Reagan pulled this shit via his captured Civil Rights Division before that. And Nixon before that.

When Trump wins in 2024, it will suck again. But it won't suck uniquely. This is an age-old fight, between a caged/disenfranchised popular majority and a wealthy manipulative white nationalist minority.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Bush and Reagan didn't lead insurrections. Roger Stone had a little putsch on Bush's behalf, sure. But Bush did not send a mob of delusional cultists to hang his own VP.

I don't think Bush or Reagan sold state secrets or lists of CIA agents to foreign adversaries either.

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, he'll accept the result...if he wins.

[–] TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He didn't accept the 2016 results, so I wouldn't count on it.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Hasnt he already said as much publicly?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well, if the diaper baby doesn't accept it, too bad. This time Biden will be running the executive branch if any of donnie's cult try to start some stuff.

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[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I thought a small d meant dick for a moment there

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[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So issue an order and have a seal team take him out since trump says that's okay.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

unless its a womping. if it is incredibly lopsided it doesnt matter how much he screams

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think you are underestimating the level of mental gymnastics these clowns are capable of

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[–] thebeardedpotato@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think you’re underestimating how much people dislike Biden right now. There are people who don’t care or understand how bad Trump will be a second time around and won’t vote for Biden. I fear democrats are getting complacent again just like they did when it was Hillary vs Trump, and the results will be similar. I hope I’m wrong. (Not that I’m a supporter of Biden or the current Democrats, but this is the shit system we have and when the only alternative is Trump… yeah)

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 15 points 6 months ago (7 children)

yep, there are a lot of people who prefer fascism over biden... for some reason.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

To him the more of a womping, the more it was rigged.

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