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[–] Timbo1970@lemmy.world 66 points 6 months ago (5 children)

It's hard not to have nightmares after the Hobbit fiasco...

[–] saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 45 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I’m hoping for a ten movie series focused solely on Gandalf smoking the finest weed in the Southfarthing.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Finally, the spinoff Radagast deserves.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Radagastric Boogaloo

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago

Staring Ana Gasteyer

[–] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 months ago

Heck yeah, and you could still call it lord of the rings if his thing is to blow smoke rings. Maybe even just once per episode, so as not to be weird.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] Timbo1970@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Are they going to get Jeremy Clarkson to play Gandalf??? I'd actually watch that.

[–] dot0@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

lmao what the hell that sounds so stupid

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 4 points 6 months ago

No I ain't gonna work on Gandalf's farm no more.

[–] saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Yes quite. Any time an adventure has the potential to come up, Gandalf hits that pipe and forgets to show up to the meeting.

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Andy Serkis is still good, so that's a bit of hope...

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

They needed a 3 year pre production for these as well. Should have gone for 2028 release.

[–] picnicolas@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago

Peter Jackson took over for Guillermo Del Toro, who unexpectedly bowed out right as production started. I wouldn’t blame Peter Jackson for those movies.

[–] realcaseyrollins@narwhal.city 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As bad as The Hobbit is as a trilogy, there was some good stuff there and I'm glad we got those movies.

I agree with you. There’s a really good 2 hour movie somewhere in that trilogy but it just needs a really good editor to cut out of all the bloat.

[–] darakan@lemm.ee 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Oh man, please be good. I'm feeling the beginnings of some hype.

Edit: Okay so I actually read the article. Doesn't seem like Peter Jackson is actually going to be directing (at least not yet). And the first movie is about Gollum . Hype levels have plummeted. I have faith that they'll try to do their best but man I really hate how they've approached this franchise. More and more I think Christopher Tolkein was right when he talked about negative aspects about the mass commercialization of his father's work.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We really need a return to LOTR greatness (not the hobbit)

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, the original trilogy is being returnd to theatre this summer.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 4 points 6 months ago

Good for a new generation to see it so they can compare it to the lukewarm mimic that will follow it.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Oh, perfect. The Gollum videogame was wonderful, and everyone loved it. Hopefully it's 3hrs of similar quality

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But why? LOTR was legendary. Can it be more than a disapointment?

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

We're about to find out... 😶‍🌫️

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That’s how I feel about them making Harry pet into sTV series.

It was cat print well and most characters will be hard to replace. I can’t imagine it not completely bombing.

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That’s how I feel about them making Harry pet into sTV series.

It was cat print well and most characters will be hard to replace. I can’t imagine it not completely bombing.

Are you doing okay?

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

I'm looking forward to it actually. I hate when they reboot a solid series in the same format but a show is longer form and different enough that it could be interesting. I'm always interested in different takes of existing media, give me Harry potter show but it's in the view point of secondary characters just living through it.

As hated as it is I appreciate the Velma TV rendition of scooby doo. I want more of that, give me alternative takes on media that exists IF you want to reboot them. We don't need more batman or superman movie reboots, but I appreciate Joaquín pheonixs the joker. Shame that the sequel is a juke box musical and not an original soundtrack musical.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago
[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Just leave it be… Stop trying to capture lightning in a bottle again…. Would love to see him go back to horror/gore/dark comedy. A “Braindead” remake?

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Wait, which timeframe are they going to cover?

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The project is named The Hunt for Gollum, which implies it will be in the Third Age, between the events of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.

In the books, Gandalf mentioned that he and Aragorn tracked Gollum for quite some time during this period, so presumably it will feature these characters as well.

[–] MelastSB@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The Rings of Power's, hopefully

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

But do it properly this time. No wizards or halflings in the Second Age, thank you very much.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I was ok with the wizard, just don’t make it Gandalf for nostalgia, stick to the blue wizards as that’s actually canon and interesting and expansive to the lore.

I’m pretty sure the rings of power writers thought they could easily get away with combining the blue wizards with Gandalf, but I think it’s just too confusing for regular fans and too wrong for nerds.

A new wizard though, one mentioned by Gandalf in films? That can work!

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, same. The blue wizards would have been doable from a lore perspective, and would have been ripe for exploration seeing as they have so little known about them. But no, the RoP writers had to have their Gandalf + Hobbit to fill their nostalgia quota, of course.

The "always follow your nose" 'reveal' was the final nail in the RoP coffin for me.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When they had the “always follow your nose” “reveal” , that was the final nail in the RoP coffin for me.

Oh yea. I loudly groaned when it happened. My partner watching with me isn’t as much of a LoTR nerd as I do I had to explain it to them I was so loud.

I’m actually still hoping that it was a bit of a fun tease and even a way to test the waters with the fan base on whether they should make it Gandalf. It’d be perfectly fine and even a little fun if it’s a “nice” wizard thing to say and think given that bodies and smells might be entirely new to maiar.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, the potential is there for another audience fakeout, but I think it's highly unlikely. Their target demographic is a mass audience who enjoyed the Jackson movies but aren't hardcore fans of the books. To these fans, as you said, a blue wizard would be too much of a head-scratcher.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Uh, weren't the blue wizards around in the 2nd age?

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nope. Canonically, the blue wizards arrived around the same time as their more famous brothers, early in the Third Age.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

According to https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Blue_Wizards the later writings retconned this, and they arrived in Middle-Earth in the 2nd age.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

That's true, however that was more or less a footnote and not something that featured in the published works. Hence why I said 'canonically', as in 'going by the books'.

I think it would have been fine for the RoP writers to have The Stranger be a blue wizard on this basis, though.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

That’s kinda what I’d heard as a rumour elsewhere, that this is in part being pushed by Amazon doing the rings of power.

Who owns what rights though?

If Warner Bros own rights to the Silmarillion, then this gets interesting and they’ve got my attention.

Sure the hobbit was money grabbing trash, but the Silmarillion is fantasy in the end (so yay) and not something easily stretched out into garbage as it poses the opposite challenge like LotR. Could work out.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I can't help but to be hyped for this. I know, I know... Hobbit. But still!

Edit: aaaaand it's hunt for Gollum. But still choosing to be careful optimist. Though I assume reacasting Aragorn will be necessary and whoever it will be will have some huuuge boots to fill.

A War of Wrath trilogy could have been amazing, but with the current state of Hollywood, I can only assume it would be bland dialogue with a jacked, short haired Fëanor making snarky quips while slaying balrogs.

I really can't imagine this turning out great when compared to the trilogy. Gollum of all characters is best left as a supporting character not the main focus.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


On Warner Bros. Discovery’s first-quarter earnings conference call on Thursday, CEO David Zaslav said that the company is “now in the early stages of script development” for new Lord of the Rings movies, which he says they “anticipate releasing in 2026” and will “explore storylines yet to be told.”

Zaslav says that director Peter Jackson and his longtime writing partners Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens “will be involved every step of the way.”

“Lord of the Rings is one of the most successful and revered franchises in history and presents a significant opportunity for our theatrical business,” Zaslav said.

As The Hollywood Reporter noted at the time, Amazon is also developing its own larger TV universe for the franchise, potentially leading to the two competitive visions.

The news that Jackson, Boyens and Walsh will be involved in the new film franchise (even if only as producers) is sure to calm any concerns from loyal fans.

The original film trilogy, which won a slew of Oscars, will be returning to theaters this summer, remastered and extended.


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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

He could make a dozen films from the Silmarillion.