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[โ€“] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 121 points 6 months ago (3 children)

In my job I write a lot of bullshit sentences that I'd rather a machine write for me. But the solution is to make it so I don't have to write bullshit sentences, not to get a machine to write bullshit.

[โ€“] howrar@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 months ago

But if you don't write more bullshit sentences, who's going to pay for AI to summarize by getting rid of your bullshit sentences?

[โ€“] ashok36@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

If your job is anything like mine, the entire reason for those blshit sentences is to fool a machine at Google into putting your website higher in their search results.

So now it's bullshit Ai writing stuff for another bullshit Ai to judge. Consideration for humans is non existent.

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[โ€“] casmael@lemm.ee 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Man never thought Iโ€™d miss crypto but here we are.

[โ€“] howrar@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As bad as it is, this is still a step up from crypto.

[โ€“] Valmond@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

At least the crypto bros were idioting among themselves and not invading every fucking angle of modern society.

[โ€“] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Not for lack of trying. They did push for cryptocurrency to be used as actual money (with some success - see El Salvador) and for NFTs to be used for managing ownership (of actual things you can use - not just JPEGs)

It's not that generative AI advocates are more pushy than crypto advocates - it's just that they are more successful. Because like it or not - generative AI does work and does provide value. The problem with it is the ethics of training it and the negative impacts it has on society - but let's not pretend it's a failed concept like cryptocurrency.

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[โ€“] casmael@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago (17 children)

Strongly disagree as unlikely as it sounds, crypto was much less annoying

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[โ€“] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Every time someone asked me if they should worry about AI i've always replied that they should only worry about humans, especially the rich ones.

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[โ€“] gmtom@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

Honestly I'm so sick and tired of the creative types giving the same shitty takes on AI over and over again

"WhY Is AI MaKiNg aRt iNsTeAd oF RePlAcInG JoBs wE DoN'T WaNt"

Maybe because it's much easier to create a plug in for photoshop than it is to build and program a robot that can identify and unclog your drains?

Like it really seems like these people think AI engineers sit in meetings and go "okay, we can either free the working class from their chains or end world hunger. Which one should we pick?"

"That's boring, can we just automate erotic anime art instead?"

"Mike you're a genius"

[โ€“] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 42 points 6 months ago (6 children)

As an engineer who works on machine learning for physical systems:

This conversation is happening, it's just not engineers who decide what's getting built. We absolutely can automate shitty jobs nobody wants, and with a better economic system we'll do it. We've been overdue to end involuntary labor for a century.

Also people keep rejecting the drain clog robot idea because they're afraid of pipe robots attacking their butts.

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[โ€“] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

Not too long ago, everyone was saying that art was the most difficult thing for an AI to do. That's why everyone had this utopian view of machines doing all the work while humans just spent their days making art.

Art was supposed to be the insanely difficult something that only humans could do.

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[โ€“] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Even with automating shitty jobs that no one wants, you're still getting people out of a job and the only way they have of making money. This is kind of how people reacted when Boston Dynamics showcased its warehouse robot. It seems that we need a universal basic income first, but no politicians are willing to do that at least until unpleasant jobs are automated. There's a bit of a chicken and egg problem there. And, on top of this, companies don't care that much about automating shitty jobs because the people in them get low wages, so they don't cost the company much to employ.

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[โ€“] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 29 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I'd say "inb4 the AI cultists invade this thread" but it looks like I'm already too late

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[โ€“] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"Scraper"

A scraper scrapes. A scrapper scraps.

I used to think AI was a helpful tool, but now I see it is scraping absolute garbage because people are absolute garbage, so now the AI output will be absolute garbage, just exponentially faster.

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[โ€“] r4venw@kbin.social 15 points 6 months ago (12 children)

I'm very conflicted about this. I'd reckon that the majority of us working on these AI and robotics systems do so to try to make the world a better place; so that maybe one day people won't have to slave away in warehouses all day and pee in bottles because they can't take the time to use the bathroom. Those good intentions always get corrupted by corporations and greed. So do we stop trying to push the envelope? Do we not try to make the world a better place for fear that it'll be corrupted? I really just don't know

[โ€“] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago

Regulations are supposed to help keep corruption and greed driven bad actors from running rampant and misusing new technology.

The problem isn't innovation. It's the extremely wealthy people throwing their money into lobbying against any regulations that would limit how they're allowed to utilize new technology like AI. Can't have things like ethics getting in the way of raking in all that money.

In the US this problem is pretty extreme because we have corporations funding our politicians via things like super PACs. It supposedly doesnt influence any politicians decisions, but we all know it must. People don't throw around that much money during election time for shits and giggles. Somebody is getting something out of it somewhere.

[โ€“] Cikos@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

is it really corpo corruption? majority of ai art 'enthusiasts' do so in the guise of 'democratizing' art but they harrass artist by scraping their work and dming them that they will be out of jobs and will die poor.

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[โ€“] LupertEverett@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (9 children)

It is so funny to see that AIBros are exactly like Creeptobros/NFTBros of their time. Saying that "you're gonna miss out", "you're luddites" and all that jazz. So what's next? They gonna tell me "have fun staying poor" too? Lmfao.

Just like the former, they are completely okay with stealing from others, cuz they are literally worthless without the data they have hoarded outta so many people.

They should keep going, so that more people will see them for what they truly are. :P

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[โ€“] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

The future of search engines will be forums where we create topics stating our search criteria and real people post results.

[โ€“] big_slap@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago
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