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[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I feel like the most early Reddit feel of Lemmy is the abundance of users who adopt Apple hate as a personality trait.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

I don't hate Apple because in most probability I'll never use their products.

However I fucking hate Android makers for following whatever dumb trends Apple introduces.

Give back our headphone jacks you motherfuckers!

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it possible that it only feels that way because you've adopted Apple love as a personality trait? Cuz it's a rather mild Pooh meme.

[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It was just a mild observation from someone who was on Reddit since the earlier days.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Cmon dude, have you not been in any of the threads that remotely concern Apple? Lemmy absolutely seethes at the notion that anyone might actually prefer Apple products.

And before you call me a fan boy, I'm literally typing this on a Samsung phone while playing games on my windows PC. you don't have to be an Apple obsessed fan boy to find the circle jerk annoying

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You think that's bad, wait till you get into the Windows hate and Linux circlejerk.

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I am not a cat.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its not just hating on Apple, its hating on anything that isnt Linux.

[–] calzone_gigante@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, Apple uses a Unix like OS, that have a lot of nice things in common with Linux.

[–] mark3748@geddit.social 11 points 1 year ago

Not UNIX-like, iOS is real UNIX.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never seen any FreeBSD hate around here.

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[–] Waker@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I am a PC/Android user, always have been. I am a hard apple hater, I've tried to keep up with the new devices though, and I've also repaired them in the past. I hate apple mostly due to just not liking to be locked on my device (lack of customization but that has been getting better AFAIK), the fact that the phone feels boring, the overpricing, the not friendly right to repair, the stupid lightning ports (Thanks EU), the "elitist" feeling...

But god damn are these new SOCs making me reconsider... I was already very pleasantly surprised with the Mac computers recently. I think apple silicon is just waaaay ahead at the moment. If competition doesn't catch up somehow soon, I think apple's monopoly will only grow.

Also, AMD over Nvidia. Not saying it's better, but I'll always go team red. Just like Apple, I hate nvidia's business practices.

[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Don’t get me wrong I don’t mind a good Apple bash for time to time, just saying this feels like Reddit of old. But yeah their fucking silicone is fucking crazy, who would’ve imagined a decade ago being like I prefer Apple for the hardware.

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[–] nils@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Both iPhone 15 models were good iterative updates in my opinion. Nothing groundbreaking, sure, but Apple finally adopting both USB-C and AV1 is great to see and the programmable action button on the pro models is a nice addition as well.

USB-C should have never been a "finally" moment for a giant like Apple.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean yeah, adopting USB-C is great (even though they only did it because of the backlash in the EU), but...

"While the new standard iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus are equipped with a USB-C port, data transfer over a cable remains limited to USB 2.0 speeds of up to 480 Mbps, which is equal to the Lightning port on previous iPhones."

Only the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max support USB 3 data transfer speeds of up to 10 Gbps over a cable. (Cable/adapter sold separately.)

So the speeds are still being throttled.

Plus, both the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus are at a 60Hz refresh rate. Idk if I'd consider these "good iterative updates" tbh.

[–] webhead@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not throttling, it's just a really shitty USB controller (what they were using with lightning). Still sad imo but ultimately who the hell is even using the USB port on their phone to transfer data?

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Alot of people.

[–] nils@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair point. Them not at least using USB 3 across the line up is silly and I don't really see what they gain from doing it apart from maybe saving a cent in production.

But on the other hand I don't think it matters either. The vast majority of people probably don't plug their phone in for anything but charging and the few people that record large video files on their phone will probably get a pro model either.

So yeah USB 2 speeds are silly and I don't want to defend a trillion dollar company for saving a cent on production but I don't think it matters either.

Creating revenue streams is far more valuable than cutting costs.

Apple does a phenomenal job in providing solutions to problems they created in the first place.

  • Get rid of ports on the computer ➑️ Buy adapters
  • Get rid of the headphone jack ➑️ Buy AirPods
  • Proprietary lightning port ➑️ Buy more unstandardized cables/adapters
  • No expandable memory ➑️ Buy an iCloud subscription
  • No spare/replaceable battery ➑️ Buy a battery replacement service
  • Little thing breaks ➑️ Shoulda bought AppleCare to make it somewhat less expensive
[–] Feirdro@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple’s build quality and usability still curb stomps anything within miles of the same features.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

usability

I can do way more useful things on Android than I can on iPhone, things you'd have to jailbreak the iPhone for. There's a reason iPhones are popular with grandmas, teens, and others who just want a phone that does phone things easily, and there's also a reason they are not that popular with hardcore nerds who like to fuck around with their devices. It's a phone that targets a specific type of person. There's nothing wrong with that. People see "usability" differently. Some people see it as "ease of use". Others care more about what is possible to do with it. It's just like the Windows/Linux thing.

[–] incompetentboob@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is a genuine question that I’ve asked android users and never had a response that isn’t vague and hand-wavy.

What things do you do on your android device that can’t be done without a jailbreak in the apple ecosystem? I’m looking for things beyond visual changes or things that a user would only use once in a blue moon.

I would love a better understanding, please and thank you

[–] deeznutz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

Fairly certain these can't be done on iPhone but correct me if I'm wrong:

  • Multi window/split screen -AFAIK you can only do this on iPad
  • custom home screen/launcher: the icons on a grid both bores and overwhelms me, so I use a minimalist launcher with a few shortcuts and app drawer for the rest
  • removable SD card. Sure, storage is getting better on phones, but the ability to pop a 2TB micro SD in my phone and keep offline copies of whatever I like for times I have no service is absolutely crucial to me (SD slot depends on what phone you have ofc, some manufacturers ditched it)
  • home screen widgets
  • notifications are superior on android
  • USB 3.0 speed data transfer with no additional software, to any device that can accept a USB stick
  • third party apps and app stores
  • being able to install apps I develop for my own personal use without paying for a developer account, having to list it on the store, or having to reinstall it every few weeks
  • ability to run Firefox with extensions
  • multiple accounts for the same app without needing to log in and out
  • USB OTG
  • game emulators
  • can safely browse tor

Depending on what model and manufacturer you go with,

  • reverse wireless charging
  • headphone jack
  • ip68 rating
  • call screening
  • dual sim
[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What things do you do on your android device that can’t be done without a jailbreak in the apple ecosystem?

I mentioned having to jailbreak them to be able to do some of the things stock Android can do. Sideloading and the ability to be used like a flash drive and have direct access to the filesystem when plugged into a computer are some of the things I use regularly.

Jailbreaking is also risky. It's a good way for Apple to have an excuse to brick your shit on the next update if they decide to for "security" reasons.

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[–] dlpkl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I agree but I think they meant ease of use and ability to "just do" things

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[–] AshLassay@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah this is basically what they used to call the S series. Have people already forgotten that Apple runs on a tick tock release schedule?

[–] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cue my coworkers, who watched to glean hints at databases they can break into. For forensic purposes.

[–] frokie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They announce that on their PR events??

No but they would make guesses on where the "juicy databases" might be when new features or improvements would be showcased.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, Apple's not doing too shabby. Could they have better consumer policies? Yeah, definitely. They seem to be getting a lot better though; enough so that I'm genuinely tempted to switch to an iPhone the next time I get a new phone (probably won't be for several years, but yanno).

The big thing that's holding me back is that you still have to jump through hoops to side-load apps. Given the state of the Google Play store, I can forgive Apple for being extremely strict about what can or can't go on the app store; however, I would like a way to side-load apps without having to do the weird song and dance currently associated with it.

Apple, you don't have to have an open app store like Google, you just have to let me install unapproved apps via my PC and I'll be happy.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the EU is doing something about this too iirc.

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sideloading is supposedly on the way. No ETA though.

[–] nils@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have to comply until 6 March 2024 under the Digital Markets Act, so hopefully we should see sideloading very soon. Fingers crossed

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Me knowing apple is the #1 abuser of stock buybacks.

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