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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 77 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Epistemology should be taught in primary school.

I mean that unironically. Learning about simple principles like non-contradiction and logical fallacies can help inoculate against so much bullshit.

With AI distorting the internet in every capacity, virtually everyone needs a new norm for evaluating whether their knowledge can be justified.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Epistemology, Logic, and Science Literacy fite me. These are the tools you use to teach yourself, anything.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

non-contradiction and logical fallacies can help inoculate against so much bullshit.

That's exactly why its not taught.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It should be part of a 12 year rhetoric program. I didn't learn anything in English class after the 3rd grade. Granted, I was considered gifted, but you have a lot of slack to put in philosophical foundations and logic.

[–] geoff@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I have taught my children epistemology for this reason. It is THE key skill in the disinformation age.

[–] RandomStickman@kbin.run 36 points 5 months ago (3 children)

When I was doing my undergrad in biology the amount of my classmates dismiss philosophy as "soft humanities" or just "word play" is disheartening. For my humanities component of my grades I took all philosophy classes and I had a great time. It's a great crossover when Philosophy of Biology was offered.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 21 points 5 months ago

It's not just the undergrads.

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m a theoretical biologist.

The best book I read on multilevel selection theory was actually written by a professor of philosophy. The author broke down the individual concepts, as they do, so that anyone reading it knew exactly what each technical term referred to. Biology is my favorite subject because there’s so much that we’re still figuring out and it’s just ridiculously complex.

I might have had a similar hot take as an undergrad when everyone has an ego based on their major - and I was even a computer engineering student for awhile, and engineers tend to be even worse at that sort of thing.

[–] Truffle@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I am not a biologist but could you please share the name and author of the book? Sounds liek something I'd enjoy TIA

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

The Word Play criticism is probably based on Analytic Philosophy, which honestly does come off as a whole bunch of wankery from the outside.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This meme is perfect, because that's cat's face is saying "I don't know what is happening or why, but I'm determined to see this through to its conclusion"

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 5 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Getting_to_Philosophy

I kinda love that this is a thing. All things lead to philosophy.

[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Descartes warned us but we didn't listen

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Descartes' maxim deal more with ontology than epistemology?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Which is why he was trying to warn people about his enemies the epistemologists

[–] vaquedoso@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

For Kierkegaard.

[–] berryjam@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Epistemology asks what do we know and how do we know it. In other words, it's the theory of knowledge.

Quick introduction: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Y3utIeTPg

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

it's not where they cut the vagina and anus into a cloaca?

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yep. It seems people either didn't get it, or didn't find it funny.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

Episiotomy

TIL

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

I think you missed the proper formula for that joke, prople took it as genuine.

"No, you're thinking of a surgical procedure done to enlarge the vaginal canal."

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 points 5 months ago

for heckin'

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

PhD Philosophy Demonised

[–] yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just assumed that the graduate has a Ph of D.

[–] treesoid@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If we assume hexadecimal, that is a pH of 13

[–] yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 2 points 5 months ago

Mmmm sodium hydroxide. Basic.