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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago (6 children)

pretty clear actions of a colonial oppressor, imo

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

It seems weird that the CCP destroyed this Mosque and ran a massacre, apologized for it, paid for it to be rebuilt which was completed in 2009, and then promptly changed it again.

Incidentally, it had to do with who was running the CCP at each time period. Really helps to discredit Xi as some pompous moron compared to Deng who understood the value in giving people rights & liberties and not running the country like a craphole like how Mao did.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Those two are the same place? Looks like it was entirely destroyed and rebuilt as something else, I'm seeing very little similarly between the two.

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They basically added a couple of floors to hide the dome. Looks like the spires got shorter though.

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[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wait, in ALL of China? Not a single mosque dome?

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's domes everywhere, not really sure what The Guardian is talking about

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it the wording? They said "Arabic".

I don't know anything about building, China, mosques, etc. I'm just saying words.

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

No, there's many many Hui Arabic-style mosques.

Maybe The Guardian doesn't know about them and doesn't consider them "major", but that sounds like The Guardian's problem.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Complete bullshit. I saw multiple when I was there, and some of the oldest mosques in the world are in China, dating back to at least 800AD

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[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sinicism - something characteristic of or peculiar to the Chinese; a Chinese method, custom, or usage.

Learned a new word today.

[–] jwt@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've always had a pretty sinical view about the Chinese.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

This is an amazing pun by means of play on words and phonetics to imply additional meaning. Incredible.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

You'll see the prefix "sino-" a lot if you start looking into Chinese geopolitical history.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jesus turned into a white dude and Mohamed is now Han Chinese.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Not only that but Mary, Jesus' mom is both a virgin, a mom, and white and Mexican! She's not a trinity, she's a forthnity!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they should work on demolishing some of those ghost cities instead...

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There are people there now:

Reporting in a 2018, Shepard revisited a number of the so called "ghost cities" several years his book and noted that, "Today, China’s so-called ghost cities that were so prevalently showcased in 2013 and 2014 are no longer global intrigues. They have filled up to the point of being functioning, normal cities ... "

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Oh, well, if "Justapedia" says so...

(The fuck is this website?)

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Is this satire? Ghost cities really just started to seriously get reported on in 2018 and subsequently more each following year. Also what the heck even is Justapedia? The opinion piece that the "2018 onwards" section is based on was released in 2018 itself and was proven wrong almost immediately. It's outdated. Frankly, the section doesn't even look like it belongs on the page and is phrased intentionally devious. It's completely wrong.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Justapedia is crap, but the article it references is real and from the guy that first wrote about the ghost cities.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s even worse. This is almost a decade old and got absolutely nothing to do with the housing market today. Are we really pretending nothing has changed since 2015? Especially in China? Seriously? The argument in the beginning was precisely about ghost cities 2018 onwards and neither of you provided a source that‘s remotely recent or accurate today.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The opinion piece that the "2018 onwards" section is based on was released in 2018 itself and was proven wrong almost immediately.

Which piece has been proven wrong?

This one, this one, or this one?

You didn’t just make that up to confirm your bias, did you? Can you please provide evidence that the state-level new area is unpopulated? Because my search says the population is 5.68 million.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The very source of the page you just sent refers to an article from 2018. Do you understand there are cited sources? Did you not bother checking them?

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[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

China's property glut is being eaten up by the rural-urban migration. It's not a static demand market.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The last major mosque in China to have retained Arabic-style features has lost its domes and had its minarets radically modified, marking what experts say is the completion of a government campaign to sinicise the country’s Muslim places of worship.

Satellite imagery from 2022 shows the entrance pavilion decorated with a large crescent moon and star made from vivid black tiles.

Ruslan Yusupov, an anthropologist at Cornell University who spent two years in Shadian doing fieldwork, said: “Sinification of these two landmark mosques marks the success of the campaign.

Yusupov said the development of Shadian and Najiaying mosques represented “the ability of Muslims to regain religious and Islamic space after the cultural revolution.

“We just wanted to preserve our last bit of dignity, because except for Shadian and Najiaying, every [mosque] in the country has been remodelled,” said the man, who has since left China and who asked to remain anonymous because of fears for his safety.

Ian Johnson, the author of The Souls of China, a book about religion, said: “Given the tragic history of this mosque – especially that within living memory Han chauvinism already led to its destruction once – the reconstruction and renaming of it is another effort to erase local people’s beliefs and their cultural heritage.”


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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I will never understand people who are so fragile about their birth culture. Cultures should serve us humans, not the other way around. Who cares if there is a not- enough Chinese building in China? Let people build whatever architecture they want to worship their skydaddy how they feel like.

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[–] zabadoh@ani.social 4 points 5 months ago

This feels like something that would happen in some version of Civilization, the 4X game.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Straight from the top of my dome
Rock rock, rock a rock a rock the microphone

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Boomfunk Mosques?

[–] tal 1 points 5 months ago

My guess is that some time within the next century or two, robot-constructed buildings are going to become a thing, and then a lot of the apparent permanence of buildings due to the cost of construction is going to go away.

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