This article is from March of last year, and a quick google seems to show that’s when most outlets covered this story. Am I right in seeing that this is a year-old story? The article mentioning things that happened in 2021 as “last year” caught my attention
I don't mind too much, I didn't know TorGuard was blocking that traffic or logging American users but now I do. So I appreciate the article in that regard but the post should've been titled like "Reminder that TorGuard tracks American users" or something rather than being presented as new info imo.
Yeah that’s basically my view as well. I don’t take issue with posting “old news”, so long as it’s presented as such. This is good for people to know, especially TorGuard users who are unaware, but the lens people use to understand a story changes depending on whether they think it’s a new development or an old fact, so some distinction is good
They are not logging American users; they disabled Bittorrent traffic for any user connected to a US server.
Interesting, thanks for the additional info!
This was news at the time, but the truth is that they blocked BT traffic from US servers, not worldwide.
If nothing has changed, this is mostly a non-story.
Just think of this as more of a YSK, instead of breaking news. 😉
I still use it today for torrenting…if it’s from last year wouldn’t it not work anymore? I didn’t see an effective date
I’ve noticed within the last month I’ve had to switch location server to a non-American one. I’m not seeing in that article that they keep log info now though, do you?
No. And their website still says that they don't keep logs, and I can find no other information indicating otherwise. If it was the case, I'd have canceled immediately.
Same. I’ll have to contact their support to confirm.
Yes. This is true
Gotta fill up that content somehow
Good thing. How else would they finance Transformers 9, or 13 fast 14 furious 15 drift?
Or the 100th marvel movie and tv show or some member-berries star wars show.
OMG Glup Shitto is back!
Hmm. I enjoy those things. They’re entertaining, expand on the things I like, and I can watch with my entire family.
I like other stuff too, but I want to be entertained by fantastical BS that takes me away from the shitty things in everyday life.
And that's fine, I'm just sad how that type of content has significantly marginalised original films and shows.
Guess what? While you’re pirating the content you watch, the rest of the world that doesn’t know how to pirate is paying for Fast 45 and Transformers 27… Geee…I wonder why they keep making those movies and not the ones you like?
Is the implication here that the average pirate has statistically different entertainment preferences than the general population? That it's pirates fault that investors choose an established safe brand over novel, compelling, yet risky storytelling? I find myself skeptical.
If I'm understanding, which I doubt, it sounds to me like what we need is more education so people know how to pirate movies.
It’s response to a complaint. Vote with your dollar. Just as with voting in elections, you don’t get to complain when you’re not participating in any capacity that has an impact on the result.
Vote with your dollar means rich people get way more votes.
<insert explanation of the fundamental contradiction vetween capitalism and democracy here> ;p
Same way a sales tax is a tax that disproportionately affects the poor.
Not necessarily. There would be no point to someone paying multiple times for content. Rich people do, however, get to overwhelmingly produce the content which is exactly why it’s most important to support creators and pay for their content. If you want to build a meritocracy within a capitalist society, your dollars are the most important means of change.
Looks at Nintendo that sells the same game from 1985 to it's customer base again and again every new console.
Looks back in history at Blockbuster, a company that would sell someone the same content multiple times.
Looks at any rent-to-own store that effectively charges 2x - 10x the price of their content for the mere privilege of taking longer to buy it.
Looks to me that people pay for content multiple times anytime a corporation can get away with it.
The rest of your statement is at best a very naïve approach to capitalism.
Those are dishonest comparisons. The OP was saying that rich people get more votes. None of those things you mentioned are a vote for content. They are votes for the mechanisms of the content and, guess what, people vote for them every time by buying them, rich or not. Nintendo selling the same title for a different system is something people do whether they’re rich or not. A rich person doesn’t buy multiple copies of a re-released game for a single Switch. A rent-to-own store doesn’t deal with movies or music or content, they deal with goods.
My last statement isn’t naive. It’s literally what capitalism is. Ingesting content is not a need. We’re not talking about Nestle buying up all the food companies. We’re talking about completely optional products.
I bristle a bit at being accused of dishonesty and I think that limiting the conversation to the money spent in the production of the original work and wholesale dismissal is distribution is unnecessarily restrictive - it's not like capitalism is a system limited to the original production of media.
That said, I think we can agree that it's worthwhile to funnel money into direct payment to artists whenever possible. Middlemen like the record studios offer terrible value, seeming to exist solely to siphon away as much value as possible.
It’s not unnecessarily restrictive. It was the entire point of discussion. Opening that up to more general straw men does nothing to further that discussion. Bristle all you want but I can see no other reason to ignore the point and argue against things that were never mentioned other than to be dishonest.
It’s ludicrous that people here can’t be honest with themselves. Piracy is theft, of one form or another. No, it’s not the same thing as stealing a physical object but no one is pretending it is. The gymnastics all over this sub are childish and tiring.
Dude, check your assumptions. I haven't pirated anything in at least a decade. I'm just an IT guy that signed up for Lemmy and puruses the 'all' page.
I do think there's an excellent case for the moral application of piracy in many situations.
Large corporations often acquire their catalog of legally protected ideas through the systemic exploitation of people. If the people who did the work have been paid every cent they'll ever get for their work, and the work itself has recouped the cost to make it, then I see no moral imperative for the work to make another dime of revenue. Obviously that's not a black and white issue and obviously piracy often does hurt smaller creators, so care and reason are called for here.
On the flip side sharing is core part of the basic human experience and there's a great argument to be made that with the advent of computers (which have both reduced the technical barriers to access tools to create, and have expanded the possibilities of what can be created), copyright law is too restrictive and is actually impedes the creation of new art, running against the fundamental point of copyright in the first place. Since the average person does not have Disney money for lawyers and lobbyists piracy often seems like the sensible way to for the common person to push back.
I also think that piracy can hurt people who absolutely do not deserve it. But I'm not going to pretend a complex societal issue is as simple 'law good, law breakers bad'.
I never made any assumptions about you. If you can’t even be bothered to read what I’ve written, there’s no point in responding to you.
It’s ludicrous that people here can’t be honest with themselves.
Do I not qualify as part of people here by virtue of this is where we're talking? I suspect when you wrote that you meant to include me, but after my reply it was no longer convenient for you to lump me in with everyone else by that statement.
Maybe you'll clarify who you meant by that, or maybe not. In either case, I wish you a great day. Thank you for the discussion in good faith.
The Fast franchise really peaked at The Furious 39
Can you imagine if they worked this hard to stop corrupt corporations from ruining everything....
10 million for private individuals...500$ fine for company's stealing money from citizens daily...who owns who
I use PIA, and so far torrents still work. It sounds like the film studios are going after smaller VPNs or VPNs that make it obvious that they're piracy friendly.
I'm curious as to what kind of action they could potentially take against providers that are incorporated overseas, but have servers located in the U.S.
One more fell
Nothing can stop a seedbox haha
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