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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 70 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My general rule is: “if they have data they can sell, sooner or later they will.”

There are very few corporations that have proved me wrong.

[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Name one please, cause I can't think of any ...

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Always forgetting about good-guy-Valve

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Founder led business, it won't last 2 ceos after Gabe exits.

This just the corp culture in the US. Parasites swarm companies to destroy them for profit.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dude could have exited at like infinite most profitable points by now.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] TopCoffee@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Exactly. It is getting more common to set up non-profit foundations in such situations. Disclosure: There’s a lot of legal stuff I don’t understand but I think the idea is that by having a non-profit entity that is focused on the “mission” and not profits, they will be more able to make the good long-term, decisions a founder might make instead of whatever makes investors the most money.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

That’s because they’re all out of business or bought up by their competitors.

[–] Donut@leminal.space 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Discord.

I will probably get downvoted because Lemmy has a hate boner for Discord, but they don't sell any user data.

[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Donut@leminal.space 1 points 4 months ago

Still didn't sell any data. And they completely removed OpenAI collaboration from the platform after experimenting with it.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As someone who listens to the earnings calls, the shareholders are forcing changes on the company and it is showing as disregard for their customers.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] sunzu@kbin.run 1 points 4 months ago

Well in a away it is being gutted from outside. These "shareholders" are just bad faith actors extracting short term value.

Management is colluding tho, if it was not outright prepositioned for this play.

[–] rhacer@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We're a Sonos family. Listening to Sonos right now as a matter of fact. But this really bugs me. I don't allow voices control in my home so was interested when Sonos brought out their own version. I've contemplated rolling it out, but now likely won't.

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just sent them a note along with my CCPA opt out request saying how I could no longer recommend their products unless they revert their practices.

And then I followed it up by telling all my family not to buy their stuff. Gotta at least do something about this BS.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Great. Now Sonos is crying. I hope you're happy.

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean the alternative is just eating their shit… what’re you doing?

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 3 points 4 months ago

You did the right thing. Documenting this clown behavior is warranted.

Saying that you don't consent also has value.

[–] YaksDC@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I sold all my Sonos speakers after the app release debacle. I think I am getting out at the right time.

[–] emmanuel_car@kbin.run 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Out of interest, what did you replace them with? I’ll be looking for a new setup later this year.

[–] gaufff@piaille.fr 4 points 4 months ago

@emmanuel_car @UTJD16 @YaksDC I highly recommend #AudioPro 🤩

For example, for the Sonos Move, the Audio Pro A15 produces a warm and very pure sound, has many features, but is (in my opinion) not a #privacy risk.

https://www.audiopro.com/en/product/a15/#dark-grey

[–] YaksDC@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

The Denon 150 using HEOS

[–] azron@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Airmusic+ your favorite apps to listen.

Speakers are blocked from the internet and the interface is not as janku as the Sonos one. Bye bye Sonos shitshow.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lmao it's called airmusic+? Hold on tight, with that name they will never do exactly what you expect them to do in one year.

[–] azron@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

It has been out for years, and at this stage I trust them more than sonos ;)