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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 172 points 5 months ago (7 children)

As much as I disliked Steve Jobs, the man was 100% correct when he talked about companies rotting from the inside. They get taken over by sales & marketing types and the product designers and user experience experts get kicked to the curb.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 126 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Apple being the pinnacle of this. They were the first ones that made devices theirs, not yours.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, exactly. I find the shilling for MacOS a bit concerning, already from the article and also the comments.

A Mac feels more like yours than Windows? Just goes to shows how shitty Windows has become, not how MacOS is better.

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago

Mac has always felt more like mine than Windows. Nothing has changed there.

And neither holds a candle to the pure, blinding, white light that is Linux. GNOME, KDE, the world is your oyster and the desktop is your choice.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In comparison with Windows and iOS, Mac OS is a paradigm of respecting the user. Of course that's only because the bar is firmly embedded on Earth's inner core.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah dude, holy shit. Cannot believe these comments here. Does anyone of the MacOs evangelists have an example of how MacOs "respects the user"?

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[–] anarchist@lemmy.ml 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Steve Jobs was no different from the rest in Silicon Valley who would spout virtues out loud while simultaneously undermining them in practice.

[–] realbadat@programming.dev 14 points 5 months ago

I'd even go as far as to say many of them today are just copying Jobs. He was a terrible person.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They get taken over by sales & marketing types

Like Steve Jobs lol.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Yeah, he was a hypocrit and I despised the guy. Woz was the real hero of Apple. But Jobs did say that stuff, and he was correct in that moment. We see it over and over.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What are you on about? Yes they made sure their gadgets were easy to use, but Apple and Jobs were the pinnacle of "locking you in" on their ecosystem for the profit of it. Sure they weren't as careless about users when compared to Microsoft but they weren't too favourable of you using anything else. They invented this stuff.

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[–] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 97 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Tux awaits your arrival friends. Join us.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago (16 children)

This dude is begging for an ad free windows at the end. Why? They're too far gone. Go make a new home in another OS. It will be okay.

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a perfect way to put it. I remember starting college and being really excited about the cloud, having my stuff accessible anywhere, changes automatically saved, etc etc. but now I don't want any of my shit anywhere near their servers, it's mine and mine alone and I'll manage it myself and buffer against losses the best I can. I'd rather have myself fuck up and break a hard drive rather than let microsoft or apple wipe my stuff over a bug or because I didn't pay them enough. Horrible, misleading bullshit.

[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think you'd like syncthing

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 43 points 5 months ago (9 children)

I can't even remove the "Recommended" section from the Start menu

[–] emberpunk@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] ky56@aussie.zone 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Windows 10 LTSC FTW!!! I just installed it and wow is it snappier and devoid of nearly all of those annoyances. I have no idea if productivity apps are affected by its stripped down nature but for Steam gaming it's perfect. I get less lag spikes on steamVR.

I haven't trusted Windows in years. This is just for gaming. I have a physically separate hot swappable Optane SSDs for Linux and Windows Gaming.

For those who will winge at me for not just switching to Linux. During this process I gave a concerted effort to give Linux a go and chose Manjaro KDE to try for steamVR gaming. It sucked. Once I had worked out that it was a permissions issue (It's always a fucking permissions issue under Linux) and just ran it under the root account, there was extremely high latency for the VR compositor to HMD display. Completely unusable as it made me sick and that's usually very hard. I tried X11 and Wayland. Direct and Non Direct output modes. No success.

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[–] 4vgj0e@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I helped my parents migrate to linux mint and they are very happy with the transition. No more ads, dumb bing search suggestions, or MS edge.

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[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore.

Aww.

If you love it, set it free!

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[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 30 points 5 months ago

There's a reason I run Linux, and root my Android

Because it actually feels like my device now

(And fixing issues is significantly easier, if you know where to look)

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Buying windows is like self flagellation. You have to be a masochist to enjoy it,especially the apologetic users.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for many, even in this day and age, there is not much choice. I main linux but also keep Windows on my PC as there are still tines when something will only work in Windows. Usually work related or gaming (VR in particular for me) and in fairness its increasingly rare.

Many other users aren't motivated to change. For Microsoft, its a bit like boiling a frog - if you turn up the heat slowly the frog just puts up with it. That's what Microsoft is doing to its customers - a slow constant enshittification, seeing what it can get away with. Try something and it causes outrage? Don't worry, just undo it and just try again in a few years! Many are already used to no privacy and being sold as a commodity that they don't even question it happening on their own personal computer.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 months ago

You pay how much to be told no?

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Windows 9x was low-bullshit.

NT and 2000 were corporate enough to be no-nonsense. They belonged to the administrator, but the administrator can be you.

ME was a mistake.

XP was not yet online enough to be properly skeezy.

But from Vista onward, yeah, it's been an escalating shit-show that's difficult to miss.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Vista sucked for sure, but Windows 7 was pretty great IMO. I was dragged kicking and screaming into the shit that's Windows 10 because Steam stopped supporting 7.

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[–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

The thing that makes me laugh/cry/be happy I switched to Linux, is that it's in that state, but it's a paid product.

If the license was free it was somewhat okay, but it's not. People are still paying.

[–] deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 5 months ago (9 children)
[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 39 points 5 months ago

I love hip hop too but music is not the answer.

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[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's the year of the Linux desktop.

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Are there different versions of Windows 11? Mine doesn't show ads at all.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 months ago

Only now?
My Windows computer stopped felling mine when 10 came around

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (14 children)

I disagree.

  • XP felt like it was mine.
  • 7 felt like it was mine
  • 8 felt like they were trying to force something on me.
  • 10 felt like they were pushing bloatware like a cell phone. At least l could remove some of that?
  • 11 feels like they decided it's their computer, I'm just renting time in it by watching ads. You could remove half the programs by default and I would not miss any of them. Do I need a version of minesweeper with micro transactions? No!
[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I'm sorry, there's microtransactions in minesweeper?

[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

What the actual fuck

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