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submitted 2 days ago by Dop@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Hi,

A friend wants to degoogle his phone, so I suggested the OS I'm currently using. The one we can't talk about... He wants a small/compact phone, so I suggested pixel 4a (not buying second hand though), but I'm afraid that planned obsolescence may kill the phone rather soon. What's your opinion?

Cheers and thank you for your help,

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[-] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Random hardware suggestions, using mobile Linux support as a litmus test

  • Pinephone (Pro): Main downside is that OG Pinephone has extremely anemic hardware, and the charging circuit is not controlled through hardware for some insane reason; hope the kernel devs of whatever OS you put on it knows how to not turn your phone into a bomb. Also Pine64 as a company has gotten flak for their support of Manjaro. Can't deny how good the price is though.
  • Fairphone 4: Good hardware, but expensive. I don't own it, but it works good on postmarketOS according to the wiki.
  • Librem 5: Overpriced compared to the earlier members on this list, but you can guarantee the phosh interface will work well considering it was developed by Purism as well.
  • OnePlus 6 and 6T: I don't know much about these, but they're very popular with the mobile Linux crowd.

As for the pixel, there's work on it but it's still broken at the moment. As for the hardware being too old, I haven't used anything Android in a while, so I don't know how much performance degrades each release, but a mobile Linux distribution should run just as good today as it will 20 years from now, assuming you use the same interface.

[-] AnxiousDuck@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago

Can someone explain to me under what circumstances would using an old phone be risky (under a common reasonable threat model)?

[-] tty5@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

No security fixes once the device reaches end of life. For pixel 4a end of security updates was 10 months ago. That mostly is a problem with malicious apps - there were some privilege escalation bugs in those 10 months - but sometimes you get a banger that can get exploited by simply loading a page or opening an image.

[-] AnxiousDuck@feddit.it 2 points 18 hours ago

I get it about malicious apps but what about just using mainstream apps and surfing the web with adblockers?

[-] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

Wouldn't those be typically handled at an OS level? If you're using an OS that actually gets updates, you're only vulnerable to attacks at the kernel or driver level

[-] tty5@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

If you are on stock software on EOL device you are not getting os updates either.

Also a bunch of recent vulns were in SoC specific stuff - outside os.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

I think it's a bit too old, if you want to stay in the pixel ecosystem maybe try to grab a 6, 6a or 6 pro. They are around $250, and they are great!

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I recently got a 6a to replace my iPhone SE for €160 and it's been working great.

[-] ben_dover@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

4a is end of life already, so no firmware updates from Google. GrapheneOS has legacy builds available for it but doesn't recommend using them, and they might go away anytime soon

get a used device which is still properly supported, don't buy brand new e-waste

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

You could just jot use Graphene OS. They create ewaste just as much as Android. Lineage OS will run on 8 year old phones.

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[-] Titou@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

The one we can't talk about...

I don't get it ? Why can't we say it's name ?

[-] StormWalker@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Because GrapheneOS is a debatable triggering subject for some people. Basically the OS itself is amazing and very good. But the project leader is apparently arrogant and offensive. And offended a load of big known online personalities. Apparently he says his OS is the best and better then everyone else etc etc. So the question is: do you use and support a project where the product itself is amazing and just what the world needs, but where the project leader is offensive? Some say yes, some say no. = Controversial subject.

Personally I use GrapheneOS because I need a good camera and I like having a flagship modern phone. Currently I'm using a Pixel 7 Pro. I also like the privacy and security features that graphene offer. I don't see another project out there that can offer me the same. The product is good.

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml -4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Pixel 4a was one of the last in the Google lineup with a headphone jack (5a being last). The OEM lost its way after that. This enough to not recommend their devices as far as I am concerned.

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, that is too old for a new phone considering it's already past its end-of-life for both official support and your OS. I'm not sure why you'd recommend them to buy new either - a phone like that is only going to be good value if you pick up a used one for cheap. A new model will be massively overpriced for what it is (and may not even be new, just refurbished and repackaged).

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