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Wait, was Cruelty Squad made by BMF?
Noone yet in this thread addressing how "gooner" relates to any of this lol, or is it just being used as ornamental punctuation to end a series of somewhat related nouns
it's emotional and social gooning, an anti-agitprop that instead of edging you toward revolution, functions as an outlet and masturbatory hope. the emotional equivalent of reaching right for the prostate stimulator. idk maybe
rubbing yrself raw to the prospect of a rooftop garden
yall lack a sense of political poetics
Don’t touch the grass that way.
Yeah I was VERY confused why "gooner" is there I swear to god its just the ultimate buzzword right now.
either solarpunk came from something awful or thr word is “nostalgia gooner” and means someone who jerks off over nostalgia?
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Now im not a solarpunk fan myself but I have seen many leftwing/leftish people seen positive on it. Is it good / bad ? I havent really looked into it beyond surface level.
IMO it's good at its roots but can be easily coopted, it's like cottagecore in that sense.
Twitter solarpunk is cooked because they all use screenshots from the same yogurt ad with lines like "a business is only as good as its people" lmao
Exactly, it's basically been reduced down to just the aesthetics which can be readily repackaged and recuperated. It's a floating signifier, waiting for a brand to attach to and be capitalized on. But since there's something fundamentally good at its core, I still see value in it.
Goblincore stay winning- the nouveau art nouveau
Sorry for being a boomer mom-type character archetype. Could you explain how solarpunk and cottagecore connect and why they are good but can be coopted? I honestly need to google cottagecore again; I remember hearing the word, but I'm not that online yet, I guess.
Cottagecore was a lesbian aesthetic about escaping heteronormative society and going off grid. It got turned into a tradwife aesthetic about neo lebensraum. Solarpunk is similar, but the way it gets coopted is via green capitalism washing away the revolutionary parts of solarpunk and replacing them with consumerism of the eco friendly variety.
Thank you, that makes sense. It's nice to see young people respect their elders :^)
great post
I think if I just continue cooking my mind with enough Brace rants I'll eventually become a good version of BMF
The sad part for me is that BMF was always completely legible to me, but I don't think I can cook myself enough to ever actually post like that because I despise obscure jargonism.
Please continue your journey to become whitehat BMF.
Nah I think what set BMF apart was not so much the jargon, but assuming that the reader could keep up with immense amounts of subtext and implied meaning; usually their posts were long sequences of quotations followed by replies that imply several layers of contradicting and layered cultural criticisms, which you could only keep up with if you synchronized your mind to theirs in a fundamental way.
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It's alright, auntie, lol.
For cottagecore - I think it's the fascist idealization of a past that never really existed. I've never really thought about the connection between cottagecore and solar punk, but I could see both having a twee idealized rural life aesthetic (with solar punk adding a dash of sci-fi)
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I wouldn't say it's hitlerite adjacent, but it's full idealism - impossible under capitalism and unnecessary under socialism. Also most of solarpunk art is really bad if you look at it second time - shitty infrastructure, rotting plant matter everywhere, erosion of cityspaces, insane amounts of labour to maintain it, disconnected primitivism, strong postapo ruin vibes, and this is even before we talk about AI artefacts in said pics.
insane amounts of labour to maintain it
Labour has never been the problem. It’s whether those maintaining it socially reproduce capitalism, or socialism/communism/anarchy.
I feel like even if we had communism tomorrow we’d still have discussions on if X thing is worth doing labor wise or if that labor could be used more effectively doing something else. It’s not like having a bunch of vining plants on every building is inherently a good thing. Those plants are going to want water from somewhere and they’ll probably get it from the sewer system or something which means clogged drains everywhere.
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It's an aesthetic. And yes aesthetics are political, but I think this is one of those ones that can go either way, in fact I feel that way about most "Punk" genres. There's been progressive and reactionary cyberpunk, steampunk, whatever.
Some of solar punk seems to be "hey what if we did Soviet brutalist commie blocks but with more greenery", so a more naturalistic and whimsical version of dense, organized, urban-proletariat society, which I think is kinda cool. Other times it looks more like an idealized version of what "techno-feudalism" would look like, a quaint, pastoral, sustainable version of being petite-bourgeois.
a quaint, pastoral, sustainable version of being petite-bourgeois.
Or as I like to call it, "Hobbitcore."
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I think it's fine. The societal changes necessary to address climate change are so wild that people literally lack capacity to imagine them. Solarpunk is an art genre to fill in that space.
Solarpunk is good this is internet poisoning.
Ville is so freakin' sazed... :cruelty-handler:
no idea who this villecallio fellow is, but that's a really 3 bells alarm chili the morning after burning your asshole spicy take
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