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[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 51 points 2 days ago

The point of rule 8 is explicitly and in no uncertain terms to weed out dreck, shit, garbage. Low quality bait, weird anonymous bigots, bad bespoke twitter opinions, etc. The dunk tank is a place for us to post garbage takes with the goal of deconstructing the brainworms or at least having some fun laughing at a moron. There is no shortage of bad posts on the internet, but just because you saw it doesn't mean that we have to as well. The dunk tank is a place where we can punch up together, rather than all of us getting riled up every time one of us sees one of the billion bad posts launched daily into the digital void by random morons.

If you'd like to continue getting mad at random internet strangers, you're invited to subscribe to /c/shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml or just reply to the bad comments you see on other sites directly with your dunks.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 55 points 2 days ago

I am once again encouraging people to use /c/shitreactionariessay on grad. Also, spicy hot poorly concocted take incoming. (This is not directed at OP but more people who hate Rule 8)

The reason rule 8 exists kind of bears itself out to me in shitreactionariessay: no harsh to whoever runs it, but the comm is just a deluge of crap. It's a race to the bottom for whoever can dredge the dumbest and most incoherent takes riddled with slurs on the Steam forums or whatever garbage hole.

Now sure, if Rule 8 didn't exist and thedunktank had this type of thing users could just block the comm, but: what if we just don't have a firehose of garbage as a comm? The dunks are more fun when someone has a quasi-coherent position to dunk into the sun, the dunks are more fun and considered when you can take apart their brainworms instead of just another g*mer yapping or whatever. Low hanging fruit by nobodies on reddit or other places does not make for stimulating posts or replies.

To be very fair, I don't see a lot of utter garbage get removed under Rule 8, this is not to accuse anybody of poor posting. I think it's probably worth it to maintain a high standard of dunk anyway though.

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[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

who the fuck is scraeming "make better posts" at my house

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
  1. Rule 8 always sucked for being too vague. In practice, it just means "do not submit shit takes from Reddit, Lemmy, Discord, and Youtube comments. Shit takes from Twitter are only allowed if they use their face as a pfp. Shit takes from non social media sources like articles are fair game."

  2. With election season (and the deterioration of Biden's brain) ramping up, it's going to be even more pointless because it's going to be trivial to find a shit take from some journo. Like, we have some ex-Soviet spy unironically saying Biden got Havana syndrome on the day of the debate, and the takes are going to be more and more unmoored from reality with each passing day.

  3. The dunk tank is supposed to be a containment comm, and to the surprise of absolutely no one, once rule 8 was established, the low-effort dunks went to the generic comm, which is /c/chapotraphouse. /c/the_dunk_tank is posting slop, and it's going to stay as posting slop. It had some potential of radicalizing other people when we used it to brigade^TM^ other instances, but the federation era of Hexbear is over.

I personally think mods should rescind Rule 8 while at the same time be a lot stricter about removing dunks from /c/chapotraphouse. People in the dunk tank want their slop and people who blocked the dunk tank don't want to see that shit in /c/chapotraphouse. Everybody is happy.

I honestly had stayed away from Rule 8 discussion for a while, but this is just going to get worse as we move closer to the election. Mods and admins need to find a satisfactory solution.

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

heavy on 1. i get weeding out typical, unoriginal stupid shit, cesspool chud threads, argument chains, etc. but a lot of takes from nobodies are confidently wrong, absurd, whatever enough to be genuinely funny or even start memes here. the tommy needy drinky one comes to mind for some reason

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views.

this is straight up like 40% of the site taglines. and you could find posts like this with hundreds of upvotes and no complaints

i could literally look through the history of the active posters here supporting rule 8 and find multiple past dunk posts from most of them violating it. and a lot of them would be bangers!

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i could literally look through the history of the active posters here supporting rule 8 and find multiple past dunk posts from most of them violating it. and a lot of them would be bangers!

This is exactly what I've been saying. It's never been enforced that strictly!

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 days ago

Damn, hexbears really love digital self harm.

You don't need to share with the class every time you see someone make a fucked up take. Sometimes things are just better left unposted. There was a time when you would see some fucked up shit and then you would take a break from the computer instead of inflicting it on other people.

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[-] booty@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's content we want to post and literally no mod has ever explained why rule 8 exists despite several users asking repeatedly. I see it as essentially the same as the "main" rule at this point, just some random bullshit the mods made up to remove more posts, and I treat it with exactly as much respect shrug-outta-hecks

The whole thing doesn't make any sense anyway. The rule is against "low effort content" but low effort apparently means posting stuff that has low engagement and is therefore harder to find, and high effort is apparently posting whatever you see as soon as you navigate to twitter.com. literally backwards. Mods refuse to explain this

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Rule 8 is to stop people posting every random dipshit with a bad opinion and it's rarely enforced in any case

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[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

The rule has actually been explained multiple times you're just obstinate about it being bad. I thought it was bad at first too then it was explained to me and I realized it wasn't.

Anyway this post wasnt about rule 8 it was about not posting dunk tank content in cth.

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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

I'm on your side autismdragon. If you're not a fan of one comm's content and block it, the last thing you want is to see it in the comms you do like.

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i had no idea this was such a divisive issue lmao

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Rule 8 good shrug-outta-hecks

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