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[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 77 points 5 days ago

Not that it matters. Not a single case is going to be heard before the election, and the chances of a trial being held before the inauguration is essentially zero, especially after the recent Supreme Court ruling. If Trump wins the election, there is exactly nothing that would be able to stop him from being a free man, immune from all further prosecution, and literally able to do anything he wants with impunity when he wakes up in the morning on January 21, 2025.

Anyone saying this now is guaranteed to not even be employed by lunchtime on that morning, let alone pursuing a case against him.

[-] Vash63@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago

That's today's justice department. The one that replaces this one with their project 2025 playbook will have different plans.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

E day is not Inauguration Day

[-] Vash63@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

True. So he goes to prison for a few months and then pardons himself? What's the significant difference here?

[-] errer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

He won’t be in prison for any of the cases except for perhaps the hush money case, but even that one is unlikely now given the two month sentencing delay

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago

So, for 2 1/2 months before Trump is sworn in, and even if Trump didn't fire everyone instantly, which he will, we'd be back to the institutional "Well, we can't prosecute a sitting President..."

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Wow. People really don’t get it. We are already

f u c k e d.

Either the D wins (which looks really improbable) or the Republic is lost. Justice won’t be able to do SHIT. No one will. The Constitution may as well be toilet paper. Fuck knows it’ll have less utility.

[-] hypnoton@discuss.online 3 points 3 days ago

You know, if I were not a minority of some kind, and had $10 million dollar net worth or above, and also had no principles, I would not feel a sense of urgency either.

And yet how many are there that are comfortably numb writing for Bezos Post.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Some people get it, we’ve been screaming about it for several years but the majority either doesn't seem to give a fuck or thinks we’re looneys.

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago

Ah yes, so surely the answer is to just give up now. Don't bother trying. If you're not a troll, you're acting no better than one.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I’m acting like reality matters. Like I want to WIN.

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Really? Because not a single thing you said in your previous comment made any indication. People who want to win say constructive things, not the disheartening hopeless shit you said.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 days ago

I don't understand why anyone thinks Biden is that in the shitter.

Republicans get bodied every election except a single one where Trump won and everyone is geeking.

Polling has been wrong as fuck since like 2008, aka when the internet got involved.

Every piece you read on Biden is a hit piece

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago
  1. You’re completely fucked if you think biden’s got this.

  2. At some point, you must accept that the republican degenerates have no standards. Therefore, the standards are higher for Biden. Our side wants a president. Their side wants to break shit.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Justice department will continue to shake their fists wildly for as long as they want to, that’ll show em

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 18 points 5 days ago

Good fuckin luck with that

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago
[-] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Wise decision. Why listen or respect those who don't respect the rule of law and actively erode the American Empire? :|

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 5 days ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


That approach may become more consequential given this week’s Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity, which probably will lead to further delays to Trump’s election interference trial in D.C. and has already affected one of his state cases.

Senior law enforcement officials have long viewed the two federal indictments against Trump — the 45th president and the presumptive Republican nominee in this year’s election — as operating with potential time constraints.

In the midst of a presidential election in which criminal cases have played a central role, any court activity involving a president-elect would push American politics deeper into uncharted territory.

Current officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, expressed the same sentiment — that if Trump wins the election, the clock on the two federal cases against him would keep ticking until Jan. 20, when he would be sworn in as the 47th president.

Trump separately faces a criminal indictment in Georgia, where Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis has accused him of a conspiracy to obstruct the 2020 election results in that state.

Trump’s claim won’t necessarily sway the judge, because the type of conduct at issue in the hush money case may well fall into the category of what the Supreme Court called nonofficial, personal actions for which a president can still be prosecuted.


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