comrades, the Protracted People’s War against the liberal hive and haven for bigoted chasers that is lemmy.blahaj.zone has succeeded! blahaj has fallen! or at least fallen off.

really tho, i just checked in on their site to see how its been since defederating. that was only 3 days ago btw! it feels like its been a week lol. their daily user count has fallen by over 1/6th since defed. and while this could be attributed to less traffic during the work week, the posting situation there is abysmal. in the past 24 hours, 78% of the posts came from c/196, making it difficult to tell that their instance is a dedicated queer space. and while they have gained ~30 users since defederation, we have gained over 200! its pretty much just 196 at this point.

while its sad to see a queer space fail, i suspect its for the best. i hope all the anti-capitalists there find their way here, as many already have. especially the trans folk there, its genuinely sad that they feel like they have to accept chasers in their space in order to have a community that accepts them. that is the difference between liberal tolerance and socialist liberation— tolerance allows for objectification and marginalization, while liberation demands dignity and equality. may all the blahaj gender diverse who oppose capitalism find their way to c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns!!!!

stuff like this are the best “dunks” the 196 reactionaries can manage: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2042262

pathetic

this meme is weak and displays their ignorance. you cant have a conversation with ppl like the OP. they will just bombard you with thought-terminating cliches. gulag gulag! Uyghurs! hologramodor! no food! purges! NKVD KGB Stasi! free Tibet so they can have their wholesome slaves again! Taiwan is a legitimate state!

countless hexbears would be willing and even enthusiastic to have a good faith, respectful, nuanced discussion about these topics with them. but they dont want that. they want to roll in their own shit like a pig with massive balls. the good ones will find us, or other socialist spaces. but for such a small instance, there are too many scratched and soon-to-be scratched liberals for us to do any good with federation.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is genuinely not what I want to see and I have no idea why Ada is being so stubborn about 196. They are turning their queer space into a chaser meme space, and eliminating all the potential it had.

On the offchance that you're reading this, it's really not too late to fix this Ada you just need to bin off that problematic mod and people here would genuinely make the effort to turn the situation around. People want you to make the right decision and will instantly turn around their opinion if it occurs, you are correct that cooperation is better for both spaces, shit like this is so easily resolved.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

more proof behind the pudding that not all trans/queer spaces are safe for trans and queer people. sentiment can be good, but you need to back it up with tanks capabara-tank

queer lives are not up for debate, ban the fuck out of everyone who disagrees

[–] ilyenkov@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

tolerance allows for objectification and marginalization, while liberation demands dignity and equality

trans-heart

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

hey its me i came here because of the blahaj defed

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't really want to create another thread about their crappy instance, so I'll just add this as a comment here instead:

Is Azov Neo-Nazi? CW: Fascist apologia for a neonazi paramilitary.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This article from France 24 reported how Azov Regiment has been de-ideologised.

Yeah, because the leaders of Azov were dispersed amongst the armed forces of Ukraine, effectively spreading the ideological nucleus of Azov like seeds in the wind to take root across the entirety of the nation's forces.

Andriy Biletsky and the people who make up the National Corps political party are neo-Nazis who deserve scrutiny. However they have no political power and do not represent a majority of Ukrainians.

"Deserve scrutiny"

Oh boy, here comes the next wave of liberals tutting and wagging their fingers at the leader of a military group who literally has Nazi tattoos. That'll surely get him to change his fascist beliefs.

The fact that Neo-Nazis "have no political power" (political power, apparently, comes out the bottom of a ballot box to these people 🙄) is ahistorical liberal cope.

The Nazi party didn't have "political power" and yet they rode their paramilitary dominance in the Weimar Republic to being installed at the levers of power in the republic in order to stage a coup because they were never capable of achieving political power through liberal democracy.

So this whole notion that "the Nazi problem in the Ukraine is, like, totally a non-issue bro" because they can't get themselves elected is just incredibly ignorant of what happens when fascists have enough guns (and political influence outside of holding seats in a parliament).

...do they honestly think that the fascist forces in the Ukraine would somehow be above staging a coup and seizing power because fascists are bound to adhering to the rules of liberal democracy?

What world do these people live in??

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

oh god, pass the eye bleach! what is is with liberals and whitewashing nazis?

[–] iie@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

i'll add another link to the pile lol

Guessing game: Russia's moon mission crashed. Whose fault is it?

some of the commenters act like Russia is still communist, it's weird.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

feddit.de user with three thunderbolts

Definitely not sus

[–] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Frankly remarkable projection there, given that it's the US that backs coups to overthrow elected socialist leaders and install fascist dictators like Pinochet or Armas.

They're so confused and arrogantly uninformed. They know a couple of catchphrases and just put them together like madlibs to form their arguments.

[–] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It was the NATO puppet West Germany, who reimprisoned 100,000 gay holocaust survivors. Not the Soviet Union.

EDIT: Yes, I like history: !daily_us_history@lemmygrad.ml

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

freedom-and-democracy

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

evil authoritarian tankie redfash cuba: most progressive family code on earth

wholesome nato democracy defender poland: lgbt-free zones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT-free_zone

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

LGBT-free zone

liberals would accept this as a type of “safe space”

i love bringing up Cuba in these arguments bc it makes their heads spin

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

:angery:

Polska A, Polska B moment. The southeast is hell for queer people. Podkarpacie is our little Florida.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

there are so many poles in the prague queer scene, im just glad they got out meow-hug czechia isnt the best place for lgbt people but it isnt too bad

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The most western parts of Poland are those which are most accepting of queer folk. And Warsaw too maybe. But it's very nice to hear that things are going rather well in Prague.

EDIT: Here is your Poland primer from a liberal perspective. I'd say 80% correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2cEufa2QaI

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

yeah all the lgbt legislation in czechia that got passed was introduced / fixed up by the communists. funny how that works thinkin-lenin

at least the succdems are becoming less shit on it. really disappointed in how the communists are getting sidelined... not many years back it was doing pretty ok deeper-sadness

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We don't even have a succdem left which remotely exists. :agony:

And our communist party is essentialy dormant due to article 256 of the penal codex. :agony-soviet:

Also I edited my previous comment to give you a primer on Poland lmao

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

yeah they keep trying to pass laws to ban the KSCM over and over but it keeps failing. im worried some day itll just happen.

my home town is still ran by commies though succdems recently got some seats. i know the police and they refuse to work with other police departments, theyre communist too. its all relatively small though. town was heavily affected by the nazi occupation and the soviet army built a lot of the old infrastructure there so there is some love still

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's inconcievable to me that communists got any parlimentary and real power east of Berlin... Wow

Congratulations on living where you do.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

yeah the nazis just fucked us up that bad honestly. we were a small partisan center up in the mountains and a lot of people just stayed

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can you tell the Poles to bring back the interurbans in Łódź?

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I can tell them to also bring back the factories, offices, housing blocs, roads...

Oh wait, you can't bring back something Solidarność stole from you. Oops.

But no, really. Łódź is the town that got hit hard post 1989.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the op of that 196 thread:

First, I’m not a liberal.
Second, it’s fucking shitty that liberal politicians only really give a shit about queer people when it’s convenient. Though your version literally makes no sense because the neoliberal isn’t throwing them in a gulag like, say, Stalin did. Their inaction towards injustice is bad but you’re saying it’s as bad as perpetrating the injustice itself which is just stupid.
Third, this is a tankie-free subreddit, so fuck off.

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