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I mean I do care about it in the sense that I care about not wanting the US to become even more of a white supremacist Christian fascist imperialist genocidal autocracy than it already is. But I don't see anything I can do about it that would be even remotely effective. And more than that I just don't see anyone else who actually cares about it enough to even try to do something about it so what good is me "caring" even supposed to do?

Now I do see a lot of white liberals (and "progressives", and even some white people who consider themselves leftists) panicking about it. But then when pressed about what is to be done to stop it, their solution is always, always, ALWAYS just "vote for (Genocide) Joe", which tells me they don't actually care about Project 2025, they just want to use it as a cudgel to get me to vote for the same ghouls who are blowing up Palestinians and who have let the spooky scary Republican Party get this powerful. But when I point out to them that they obviously don't really care because they aren't interested in addressing the roots of fascism or doing anything real to stop fascism, they get all indignant and upset at me, call my takes "disturbing", "monstrous", "privileged", "psychotic", and after getting that a bunch I do have to wonder if maybe I just have some massive blind spot and am getting this wrong. But they won't tell me what is actually factually wrong about what I say.

Besides, what do they want me to do about it? They can't seriously expect me to back a party that loves genocide, but they won't suggest anything else.

Idk I just feel like the majority of people I see raising a fuss about Project 2025 and the threat of a "Trump dictatorship" are comfortable, privileged white liberals, usually white queer liberals, who have never had to worry about the government targeting their demographics until the last few years. I and every other queer poc I know is like, "oh, they're going to go after me for another thing? Sure whatever, put it on the pile of other shit they throw at us, what's one more? Now let's get back to trying to stop the fascist Democratic Party from stealing money from our paychecks to bankroll a genocide against some of the actual most vulnerable and oppressed people in the world. If Project 2025 actually lands here we'll fight that too, but we will NEVER throw away our solidarity with the wretched of the earth to preserve what comfort we do have."

Please Hexbearians, tell it to me straight: Is Project 2025 something we actually need to pay attention to and if so what can we actually do about it? Or is the furor over it just a bunch of fragile white people panicking because they might finally be lumped in with the rest of us and finally get targeted for oppression too?

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

Genocide Joe gets re-elected. It's 2026 midterms. Historically the previous presidental team takes a loss in midterms. Which means more christofascists stacking the deck for 2028, and do they think they are going to be lucky enough after another for year of...of... biden-forgor that people would want to give the Does Not Care party another go?

Now if on the other hand cheeto-man gets his final term. 2026 rolls around midterms. Same thing but Dems get more seats to stack for 2028 fresh hellstart.

2025 still goes on, unless somone can successfully adventure-time the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society.

Really it has already been going on in Red States ron-goober

The major bribers are fascists. It's going to fuel lawsuits for the next 20 years and it's going to be a S L O W bake because vote aint going to do shit about it and the damage will already be done.

So you should care-ish about it in the same way ALEC paved the cookie cutter bullshit we see now aware it exists. Support the legal fights in your state. Support advacacy groups. Be active in your local LGBTQ advocacy groups. Also fuck the HRC. Don't give that corporate can kicking lobby a dime. DC advocacy groups only exist to parasite off suffering, go to cocktail parties, and deliberately kick the can down the road in service of the maybe-later-honey We see you we hear you LIB s

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

but we will NEVER throw away our solidarity with the wretched of the earth to preserve what comfort we do have

this

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

get in contact with vulnerable people and house the people that will inevitably go homeless from this shitshow in whatever way you can. even if it means sharing a bed, unironically shrug-outta-hecks

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

they get all indignant and upset at me, call my takes "disturbing", "monstrous", "privileged", "psychotic", and after getting that a bunch I do have to wonder if maybe I just have some massive blind spot and am getting this wrong.

This is them displacing their guilt at supporting a genocide for the sake of what you have just pointed out is a fascist non-solution. They don't like being reminded they sold their souls for nothing.

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

Thanks for the support, that makes sense

[–] D0ctorPhi1@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

We should just rebrand it as Project 1776 since it's basically what America has always been about anyway.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

I don't give a fuck because literally what is going to change? Oh no the Democrats can't get elected? They never fucking do anything good anyway! Fuck!

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