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[–] Elextra@literature.cafe 71 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Personally a little sad over this. Have a bluray player and sometimes I want to be able to choose and pick a newer movie in 4k... Much cheaper than Amazon and Vudu to rent.

[–] dan@upvote.au 58 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Blu-ray also has much higher quality than streaming services.

In fact, the only way to stream a movie in Blu-ray quality is by using something like Real Debrid, with a fast connection since the bitrate can reach ~100Mbps at times. There's no legally licensed way to do it. Seems like a missed opportunity IMO.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'm genuinely curios. As somone who basically just watches 1080p can you really tell a difference? I feel like my tv and eyes are just limited.

Even when I'm at Costco looking at the 10k ultra super duper HD footage... It just looks good. I wouid be hard pressed to really tell a difference from home when there's usually filters on movies so they never look super ultra sharp anyway.

[–] Legge@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

It depends how close you sit to your TV and how large the TV is. I can tell a difference if I'm close enough or if the screen is large enough. As well, try turning on a streamed 1080p show and using a 4k bluray (if you have all of thrsr things). When you stand close (like, closer than you'd watch), you can really see the difference. As you back away, it becomes less noticeable, but even at comfortable viewing distances people can see the difference

You can see an example on your phone. Try watching a video in 1080p and then 480p. You should notice a difference, even if you hold your phone a foot from your face it's the same idea when watching on a tv.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

HDR vs no HDR makes a big difference in colours to me. And if you compare compressed low Bitrate footage vs higher Bitrate there will often be artifacts or color banding, particularly in darker scenes or wherever you have gradients.

It ofc also depends on what device you are watching it on. But I would say that yes if you have a movie (made up example) that is compressed to 5gb total size vs 25gb vs 70gb for the uncompressed Blu-ray quality, then the first jump will be a very noticeable difference assuming you have capable hardware. Whereas the second one will be much much less noticeable and also come with other drawbacks that need to weighted off, e.g. storage requirements.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

vs 70gb for the uncompressed Blu-ray

Blu-rays are compressed too, they're just less compressed. Uncompressed 4K at 24fps is around 4.7Gbps (around 600MB/s) so 70GB would only be around two minutes of video.

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[–] TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Much cheaper than Amazon and Vudu to rent.

True, but you just named two major parties pushing for Redbox’s death.

[–] Elextra@literature.cafe 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Understood. I honestly don't know many alternatives to Redbox besides those for renting movies... Even then, as others have mentioned, there's a difference between streaming and playing a blu ray. All movies I rent are <$2.50 from Redbox, nicer quality vs. >$5 Amazon.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Only other place I can think of off-hand is the local library for rentals. Half Price Books and thrift shops will have some for sale, but I'm not sure how much lower they may be from Amazon's rental fee.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your local library would appreciate it if you go ahead and check out some movies now and then. It helps them prove that they are worth funding.

[–] Elextra@literature.cafe 4 points 4 months ago

Thank you! I remember my local library had dvds. I don't remember any BluRays. Will check it out!!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lots of poor people used Redbox.

At least poor people still have the public library.

For now.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Wealthy people also use it. I'm relatively well-off (not rich, but above average), and I love Redbox and was planning to use it more often now that streaming platforms are screwing everything up. I hate ads, and every streaming platform seems intent on shoving ads in my face.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dedbox

I think I'll take one home.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I wonder if you can install Linux on it?

[–] db2@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

I'll make it dispense AOL CDs from the 90s

[–] residentmarchant@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Seems like it could be converted to a vending machine pretty easily if you could add your own OS

Already has security, waterproofing, payment processing stuff, and a screen to choose your item.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Just have to completely reconfigure everything physically and digitally. Or, sell something the size of a cd?

[–] Zier@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

Oh hey, what about... movie rentals? That would be cool. No one does that anymore.

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[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Wait, they still existed to this day? That's impressive.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 months ago

Literally last week my wife noticed one while out and remarked “I can’t believe they’re still around.”

I just sent the article to her with the caption “You did this!”

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[–] TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ok hear me out, we rent all the media before they disappear. Then once the redbox disappears, there's nowhere to return the disks.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

No, in this capitalist world what will happen is that your account number becomes an asset during bankruptcy and they would sell that to some credit recovery agent who would sue you for some bullshit amount of money

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

That's pretty much what Netflix did.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I should see if I can find some working ones tomorrow and take out a few games and see what happens if I never return them lmao

[–] Hellinabucket@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Don't you have to enter a credit card before it gives you the disc? I imagine they will just charge you later though maybe it'll slio through the cracks.

[–] dan@upvote.au 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I doubt it'd slip through the cracks... The late fines are fully automated. The advertised price is a daily rental rate. For every day you have the item, you get charged that amount. Once you hit the maximum amount, it stops charging you and you can keep it (at that point, you've paid the full price of a new movie or game, but just own a second-hand one...)

[–] richmondez@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

In theory could you not use a prepay card unless it reserves a charge for the theoretical full amount up front?

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Quick! Everybody run to redbox, and rent EVERYTHING.

Not like you have to return disks to a service and box thats no longer fuctional!

Yep......I see no flaws in this plan! Just a smart guy doing smart things!

Hey.......we should build a monorail to the moon!!! And then brag about our redbox gains!!!!

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Redbox Gains. That sounds a lot like my failed thrash ambient band.

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[–] Extrasvhx9he 12 points 4 months ago

Had good memories with this ngl

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I kind of want one of these to load up with my discs to just be a fancy frontend to pick out a movie for the night...

Anyone know how many discs these things hold? Gotta be a few hundred no?

[–] Zorg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"over 600", considering how much shelf space it would take, to store 600+ movies in their covers; a redbox is probably a very space efficient way to store and resource optical media.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 7 points 4 months ago

yeah I'd love to get my hands on one of these and just keep it in the Livingroom then. Put all the blurays in it. Let people borrow disks...

would be a cool project to replace their (more than likely) proprietary GUI with a custom one... I have RFID cards on hand. Could be cool to just assign cards to friends and let them come over and "rent" movies.

Make a "secret" menu for "renting" out Linux install disks to myself too. Forces me to keep shit organized.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait, the Chicken Soup people own Redbox? Has that always been true?

[–] slayback@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

RedBox was originally developed by McDonalds.

[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I remember being able to rent video games from these. Some days you might see 2 people in line for one of these things.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

The issue here isn't with the core idea Redbox is going for, the problem is rights holders not allowing interesting uses of their media.

I'd really like to see something like Redbox pivot into something with a much bigger catalogue and much lower operating costs. The kiosks could provide USB/HDMI dongles where pretty much any media can be loaded and displayed on a TV for a consistent price. That way they could offer a much larger catalog, don't need to have someone physically move disks around, and the kiosks can be smaller since they don't need a bank of DVDs and Blurays. They could have a digital distribution platform to complement it, where you can stream everything instead of going to a kiosk. And you don't need any special equipment, pretty much everything has a USB or HDMI dongle.

Just think of going to a drive-thru and getting a dongle with your meal so you can watch a show with your fast food dinner. The only real logistics here is rebalancing the supply of these dongles, but that's much simpler than restocking DVDs/Blurays. These dongles can also be incredibly cheap, probably something like $1-2 at scale, and they could be reused dozens if not hundreds of times. They could even partner with libraries to digitize their library so patrons don't need to have a DVD/Bluray player to watch stuff.

But no, we can't have nice things. I'm pushing back by cancelling my streaming services and going back to ripping DVDs/Blurays. I have nearly finished digitizing my collection of disks, and I'm going to be buying and ripping physical media going forward. Screw this slow march toward "you will own nothing and be happy" nonsense.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how many discs one machine holds? Might replace a bunch of bookshelves...

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is what the inside of a Redbox kiosk looks like:

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Looking forward to seeing this on Technology Connections. Seems right up his alley.

But knowing his timeframe of products, it'll probably be 20 years from now...

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Depends on whether you can use it to wash dishes or store heat energy.

[–] LemmyTryThisOut@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you could make this thing dispense drip coffee, he'd be all over it

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 5 points 4 months ago

Or wash dishes.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A judge overseeing Redbox owner Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment’s bankruptcy case granted a request Wednesday to convert it from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7 bankruptcy, according to Lowpass’ Janko Roettgers and The Wall Street Journal.

The company’s lawyers said Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment will lay off its remaining 1,000 employees and liquidate the businesses, including streaming operations and the 24,000 or so disc kiosks that have rented out DVDs, Blu-rays, and videogames for years.

Given the fact that there may also be at least the possibility of misappropriation of funds that were held in trust for employees, there is more than ample reason why this case should be converted.”

In addition to operating Redbox, Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment also manages brands like Crackle and Screen Media.

Chicken Soup for the Soul Entertainment didn’t immediately reply to a request for comment.

Roettgers has been covering Redbox and its parent company’s recent troubles for The Verge, including a missed multimillion-dollar payment owed to NBCUniversal, the original bankruptcy filing, and Chicken Soup failing to make payroll for Redbox employees.


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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

My redbox app already stopped working

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