this post was submitted on 16 Jul 2024
165 points (95.6% liked)

News

23310 readers
3661 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 23 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 93 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Imagine how many malnourished families that would feed.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You could set up a hundred malnourished families with retirement for that amount.

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A hundred? Disability benefits in the US is 8k per year and it is “survivable”.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, I guess I was thinking “quite comfortable and sustainable.” Let’s say a million dollars at a 4% fixed interest rate, allowing $40k per year to live off of. That’s quite reasonable in some areas of the country.

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

That feeling when 40k per year is 5 times what you get.

But in all seriousness I think that is a solid model.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine how many malnourished families that will create!

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 69 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's planning on giving $180,000,000 before the election. That's a lot of free speech.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 52 points 3 months ago

Divide that by 180 and it's still more free speech than most people will ever see in a lifetime.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I'd think he'd be worried about trump removing ev subsidies, as he said he would multiple times, but Tesla stock seems so untied to reality that even if sales plunged the stock might increase as more of his braindead supporters would buy it to own the libs.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I don't, in musk's mind it's probably buying a favor so Tesla is excluded from subsidies removal. They'd find another way to get Musk more federal funds by saying their only a tech company and working on AI or some shit like that.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

(only commenting because it changes the meaning of your point)

I think you typoed "untied" and in your defense, my phone just autocorrected that to "United"

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

While campaign finance laws are dogshit these days, isn't there some kind of upper limit on how much one can donate to a campaign?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago

That’s why he’s not donating to the campaign. He’s donating to a Maga PAC.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are limits to what an individual can donate to a campaign and a PAC. There are no limits to donating to a Super PAC.

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/taking-receipts-pac/contribution-limits-nonconnected-pacs/
https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/taking-receipts-pac/contributions-to-super-pacs-and-hybrid-pacs/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_action_committee#Super_PACs

Super PACs are unlike traditional PACs in that they may raise unlimited amounts from individuals, corporations, unions, and other groups to spend on, for example, ads overtly advocating for or against political candidates. However, they are not allowed to either coordinate with or contribute directly to candidate campaigns or political parties.

[–] Upsidedownturtle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

One thing to note is pac money is less efficient than campaign money. Campaigns get the lowest rate for advertisements while pacs pay market rate. Super pacs technically can't coordinate with campaigns so there isn't a unified message, however the FEC is pretty toothless so any coordination would likely have to be very blatant for action to be taken. Their advertisements can also be overly biased by their ultra wealthy donors, ie something that musk cares about a lot may not have significant sway on the public which can cause said ad to be wasted.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The answer is similar to the answer of, "Do large corporations pay taxes?"

Technically, large corporations pay taxes and there's limits to how much an individual donates to a political campaign.

But, if the individual uses financial constructs such as SPACS and C-Corporations, they can effectively donate as much as they wish, and even do so covertly.

It's like most anything else: The rules are constructed for and enforced inversely proportional to fiscal class.

Small groups can make a substantial difference by using these tools for "good". A fantastic example of an idea that scaled beautifully is Proton, a C-corp, soon to be majority owned by a trust with zero liabilities, soon forever subordinate to the principle of privacy in digital services.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's a small price for getting Trumpists to boost Tesla stock price and become a couple billion richer.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 4 points 3 months ago

And in the end, Project2025 will likely still come for Elon and his porn hive.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

wow what a fucking loser

[–] smnwcj@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago

He knows Trump will win, it's a safe bet to win some favor.