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[–] immutable@lemm.ee 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Privatizing our space program was a great idea, everything neoliberalism touches turns to gold!

Fucking morons

[–] WayeeCool@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The US space program has always been privatized. The Mercury program was McDonald Douglas, Apollo program was Boeing, and the Space Shuttle program was Rockwell. Said companies weren't just the prime contractors responsible for design and manufacturing but also contracted for launch operations.

NASA space launch has always been contractors all the way down. The only thing that changed over the last couple decades is were the liability lies. The previous system of NASA being responsible for all the failure, held hostage by contractors, wasn't sustainable and under the Obama administration an initiative was launched to restructure things so all liability was on the prime contractor for any program. The old system was NASA contracting for labor and the prime contractor giving it their best effort rather than NASA contracting for a finished product. NASA now buys a finished product, a commercial relationship, rather than signing contracts for design services, manufacture, and launch operations that have no contractual guarantee the product will actually be delivered. This is why Boeing has actually lost money on the Starliner and SLS program rather than the previous situation of being able to hold NASA hostage milking more money as a reward for fking up.

Another fun fact is the US National Labs are also privatized and have been since the very beginning. National Lab scientists aren't even US government employees and their salaries come from whatever corporation has hired them to work at the lab. The US government owns the real estate and issues grants for the research to be done but the labs themselves are private sector operations, each one operated by a handful of corporations. It's why the US government never owns the patents from US national lab research.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They're not really stuck. They can come down on a Soyuz or a Dragon as soon as Boeing admits their shitty untested capsule doesn't work. And the ISS will continue to get regular supply runs in the meantime.

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also these people fucking love being in space. Having to stay up there for a few extra months is ideal for them.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Of course they fucking love being in space it's space

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People think they love being in space but the amount that these people love being in space is the amount you love the idea of being in space multiplied by actually doing all the things to be an astronaut to the power of finally getting picked for a mission.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

To be fair, these are people with drive. I probably put as much emotional effort making carbonara that one time as they do shaping their career.

They also might be able to go down on starliner in an emergency. It's not optional or safe but it mostly works

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] edge@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Nicholai tells the crew that a communicaitons antenna is broken, requiring Gordon to go outside to fix it. While outside, he tells Kira to keep the others away from the windows to spare them from the sight of Earth's surface in flames. Gordon untethers his space suit to reach the antenna, and Alexey sabotages Gordon's communications with the ISS while Nicholai uses the station's robotic arm to swat Gordon into space.

Russians are so ontologically evil that even civilian scientists will immediately murder their American colleagues that they were getting along with without hesitation.

Communications are restored, allowing the station to stabilize. Both governments request confirmation that the astronauts and cosmonauts have completed their respective missions to take control of the station. Not responding to their superiors, Kira and Alexey board the Soyuz spacecraft with the research and descend toward Earth. Alexey asks where they are going, and Kira responds "I don't know".

China.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They also find the station is orbiting too low and will fall to the Earth if aid does not arrive within 24 hours.

Communications are restored, allowing the station to stabilize.

First of all they just completely changed the reason the station was unstable, but neither reason really makes any sense.

If it were about supplies (presumably thruster fuel) why was the space station allowed to get to the point where it would be that close to falling to earth and not have any fuel to compensate? In reality they adjust monthly with small thrusts and even if they stopped doing that it would probably take a long time to fall to Earth.

If it were about communications, on top of the above problem of letting it get that close, why would they make that adjustment controlled from the ground instead of on board?

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

All hard SF writers need to be forced to play at least 2000 hours of KSP