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Team hopes findings will help improve equine welfare after showing cognitive abilities include being ‘goal-directed’

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[–] No1@aussie.zone 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Everything is goal directed right up to the...

REEEEEEEEEE! HOLY FUCK WHAT WAS THAT LITTLE NOISE OR MOVEMENT? RUNAWAY! RUNAWAY! RUNAWAY!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You fool! You absolute buffoon! That horse has been twelve steps ahead of you the entire time! The freakout was staged and part of its master plan!

[–] No1@aussie.zone 4 points 3 months ago

Goddamit!

Tricksy horsesses!

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The master plan being to kick you in the balls

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

To be fair, that describes me having a panic attack when my plans fall apart.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they are goal directed they are more sapient than I am.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I was just thinking something similar. Perhaps envy.

Stupid horses knowing what they want and working towards it.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

but, famously, they never proceed directly towards their goal. they always take one step to the side after two steps forward.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Of course they can? They're animals? They have brains? They need to think strategically in order to survive attacks by predators in the wild???

Do people really think that horses are just here to get humans around faster and that there's nothing going on in there?

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

Anthrocentrism go vrooom

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Humans love to seperate ourselves from the animal kingdom. We minimize them and pretend they are not capable of anything. We convince ourselves that no one else is even remotely close so we can attempt to justify our often horrific treatment of non-human animals

(Or at least some subset of the population anyway)

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

It's mind boggling how much people (especially Christians and very especially Amish) look at animals as lowly, base creatures with no sense of anything whatsoever. Like they're complete automatons.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They need to think strategically in order to survive attacks by predators in the wild???

Do they really? I think most prey animals default to predator = run, which seems sufficient in most situations

[–] booty@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's all well and good until there evolve predators that have complex brains and can think about how best to approach you such that you don't know they're there

If you think just running away from predators you see and otherwise putting absolutely no thought into the existence of predators is sufficient you would not last long in the wild lol

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago

and otherwise putting absolutely no thought into the existence of predators

That's absolutely not what I said and that's also not what "Thinking ahead and planning strategically" entails

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How did you conduct this study? Play chess with a horse?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Horse did a en passant and the researcher got mad

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It then farted while running away, kicking.

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Then, when it slowed down to a pace, it ate a chick

[–] atlas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago
[–] dumbass@leminal.space 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So a horse could plan and act out a murder?

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

No, but they could plan and act out a greater European conflict.

[–] whenthebigonefinallyhitsla@kbin.run 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it looks like somebody in this story doesn't understand the difference between strategy and tactics, which definitely seems like quite an important distinction in this case

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why is that important? If you want to separate the two, the strategy is obvious.

thinking tactically is short term, thinking strategically is long-term, especially with the "plan ahead" in the title

nothing about the test described in the article implies that horses are capable of doing that though