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The lawsuit claims that Dr. Kanokporn Tangsuan suffered a fatal allergic reaction after eating at a Disney Springs restaurant despite repeatedly informing the waiter of her severe allergy.

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 405 points 1 month ago (11 children)

"Disney is calling for the lawsuit to be dismissed because her husband signed up for a one-month trial of the Disney+ streaming service years prior.

The company says signing up for the trial requires users to arbitrate all disputes with the company."

Some lawyers truly are scum.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 153 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This could be a precedent-setting case. These fuckers better not get away with this.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So would this mean that Disney can no longer use their massive legal department to crush fair use of their IP? If someone signs up for Disney+, the arbitration agreement goes both ways.

I would think a competent judge would just ask the Disney lawyer that question. Like, "do you want to be out of a job?"

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No.

You and Disney agree to arbitrate all your claims. Disney still retains the right to fuck you over to the full extent of the legal system.

After all, corporations are people, and some people are more people than other people.

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago

That's the best paraphrase of Animal Farm I've heard in a while.

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[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

But this is happening in post-precedent America

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago

Maybe we can finally claw these arbitration powers back?

[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Very much nottheonion material. Something like

”Disney Legal Team Argues that Agreeing to the Terms & Conditions of Their Streaming Platform Releases The Company of Any and All Potential Liability in Shellfish Poisonings”

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"Signing up for a free trial of Disney+ means they can kill you, legally."

[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

”Disney Legal Team Argues that Agreeing to the Terms & Conditions of Their Streaming Platform Releases The Company of Any and All Potential Liability in Political Assassination”

[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Fucking hell

[–] mke@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If a lawyer is scum, then so is the one paying them.

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Some people/companies/etc. really take “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” too far.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

I do hope whoever suggested that this is a legitimate cause to dismiss the case dies of an intestinal blockage caused by hemorrhoids. Just a thing I hope.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Arguing over health/death via a technicality is one of the lowest of lows.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This shouldn't even be a technicality here. If this goes through and a TOS is universally binding to your life then the court system just died. Also they can put other ridiculous things in there like you owe them the subscription money in perpetuity even if you decide to uninstall the app. They'll argue the consideration is there because you can re-install at any time.

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[–] Voltage@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago

this is actual parody dystopian movie level crazy wtf

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

All corporate lawyers are scum.

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[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 200 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Arbitration clauses need to be deemed illegal.

Especially ones that are mandatory for employment

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

or at the absolute bare fucking minimum be opt-in only, instead of "opt out by sending us a handwritten letter through snail mail within 45 minutes of this notice." the shit offers less than zero benefit to the consumer and basically lets corporations get away with murder

nothing will ever change to make them go away

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Opt in with customers isn't a thing. If you don't opt in, you don't get housing, or Internet, or phone service. The list goes on. Opt in is libertarian propaganda. No different than at will employment.

[–] Sesudesu@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I was gonna say basically the same thing, ‘opt in’ is just a solid point of leverage away from ‘required.’

Should be illegal.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Arbitration has its place in B2B contracts.

With consumers or employees? Absolutely not

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[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm just about to move to Quebec, which is based on the French Napoleonic code rather than English Common Law. I'm not an expert, but I understand that the French system does not rely on precedent in making judicial decisions, but everything has to be codified in the law.

Anyway, another one of the legal differences between Quebec and other provinces in Canada is that mandatory arbitration clauses are illegal.

The medical system may be imploding even faster than the rest of Canada, and my rights as an English speaker may be stripped from me by the time I move, but they do have some protections for individuals.

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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 119 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Incredible.

Do the right thing, courts.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 69 points 1 month ago

Pllllllllllleeeeeeaaassseeeee let this go to trial. I'm begging y'all. They weren't even active subscribers of Disney+, they only got the trial. But holy fuck either way, this is stupid. Arbitration agreements should be illegal.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ugh, how revolting. for a while there, while they were fighting desantis, i forgot how evil disney can be.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Evil begets evil, Mr. president. (Extra points if you can name the movie)

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

for a gen-xer like me, that's easy.

leeloo dallas multipass

ZZZZ!!!

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I am a meat popsicle

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's the one where they are in the future, and have aliens, and a bunch of greedy people. It has a hero in it, that makes a stand for what is right, killing a bunch of aliens.

Battlefield Earth, right?

(/s, please don't kill me, Corbin)

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[–] dudinax@programming.dev 63 points 1 month ago

Everyone who approved and delivered this argument should go to prison.

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Event happened at raglan road Irish pub, when raglan road staff failed to do their job in regards to food allergens.

Diner dies from anaphylaxis due to ingested dairy and nuts, which they were ASSURED BY THE WAITER WAS NOT IN ANY OF THEIR FOOD.

Disney is calling for the lawsuit to be dismissed because her husband signed up for a one-month trial of the Disney+ streaming service years prior. The company says signing up for the trial requires users to arbitrate all disputes with the company

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's insane. When are citizens going to be protected from fucking mandated forced arbitration?????

[–] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Never because when corporations do it it's "capitalism" and "freedom".

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[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Haven’t courts ruled that those terms and conditions aren’t totally enforceable since no one can really read and/or understand them all?

This is a food issue and literally has nothing to do with any fucking digital agreement whatsoever. Full stop.

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[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The estate should file the claim. They wronged her, not the husband. By having the estate file suit, that would negate anything the husband may have done.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And sue the chef personally, for completeness

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[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Holy cow. Just pay the man Disney. Then kindly fuck off

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[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It would be a lot more beneficial to them to add an arbitration clause to all their movies. Watching the next avengers movie? You give up the rights to your first born.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is this not a criminal matter

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It could be a difficult thing to prove who is at fault, and the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the staff at the restaurant were at fault individually.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, my brain went straight to, "Someone along that chain is one of those people who think allergy sufferers are just weak complainy people and faking it"

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I've seen this Black Mirror.

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