Why is there even outrage at this point? It's not a secret these people are Nazis. They've barely hidden it. Thankfully, DeSantis has no chance at all.
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Don’t get complacent. That was the word about Trump until he won in ‘16.
I was worried about DeSantis at first, but he's a value brand Trump. He doesn't get people riled up like Trump does. I'm still worried about Trump though. I drink think he could win again but I didn't think he'd win in 2016
I don't think the corporate sponsors of the gop will allow DeSantis. Trump was VERY good for business, DeSantis has shown that he is a threat and can't play nice.
DeSantis doesn't get the right riled up, but he is effective in ruining everything intentionally like McConnell. He won't get the Republicsn nomination till Trump dies, but he will probably be the successor.
He's effective at ruining everything in Florida, where he has Reublican supermajorities in the legislature to back him up. I'm not convinced he's actually an effective politician like McConnell.
There's fortunately a lot more opposition to Trump this time around. Hopefully enough to keep him out of office.
DeSantis is going against Trump. It's very clear who Republicans like more.
EDIT: So sorry, I have no idea what happened.
They're trying to present it as if it was shocking, to "subtley" deny what they are, but actually spreading who they really are.
It all falls into their mindset of thinking most people secretly agree with them. They're idiots who think it is some clever ruse to rally support.
"Newsweek has not been able to verify if it had been shared, or the account from which the clip was retweeted from. '
So... They just published this article without confirming that it even happened? I'm not doubting that it did because it seems pretty on brand but you would think a major news outlet would make sure before they publish an article stating it did.
News gotta go fast, 24 hour news cycle and still not enough time for all of it. Fact checking? That's for losers, and if you're not first you're a loser.
Take my angry upvote; it's true; getting there first matters more than getting it right for those views. They maybe go back and edit later.
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I see some people that are suggesting that, while that symbol might be popular with nazies, it is likely too ubiquitous to bo only popular with the nazis. That might be true, but political figures should probably exercise a bit more caution than the average citizen when it comes to these kinds of things, if only for the optics.
On the other hand, it is likely tedious to go through all of the media that passes through a political campaign to ensure that these types of things are caught, even if there are staffers assigned to specifically these types of things.
On the other, other hand, it is probably simpler to just not agree with nazis.
Holy crap. In other countries people would be arrested for using fascist and nazi imagery. What kind of hell hole is the US becoming?
Becoming? The only reason why Nazi ideology didn't take off in America in the 1930s was because American conservatives wanted a home-grown fascism, not that imported shit.
Even so, there was that massive Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden that everyone forgets about. Allen Dulles, who went on to become the head of the CIA when it was formed, is said to have shed real tears when America declared war on Germany.
It was also an American Neo-Nazi who created Holocaust Denialism.
America First was only one such group, the German Abwehr was very active in America.
Father Coughlin had a radio audience of tens of millions and literally read Goebbels’ propaganda over the air. He had his own militia group.
The Silver Legion was another one.
A man named Leon Lewis formed a civilian spy ring that was tracking Nazis in Los Angeles. One of its members even warned congress of a planned attack on the Hercules Powder plant a year before it was blown up (cause still officially unknown).
I think Pearl Harbor is the main reason this stuff was stopped.
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Somehow, we've fully confused facts for opinions, and now you're just allowed to say whatever hateful nonsense you want because pearl-clutching centrists don't believe anyone can make restrictions on speech that couldn't be abused.
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We've had Nazis protesting all over Orlando and Tampa practically every weekend these days, yet our governor and his surrogates just encourages more of this Nazi crap.
Thankfully we have Volusia county Sheriff Mike Chitwood actively trying to arrest as many of these Nazi fuckers that he can get proof of wrongdoing for, he seems to be the only authority figure in the state actually trying to do something about the growing Nazi infestation we've got going on here in Florida.
I guess Rhonda Sandtits is trying really hard to be as equally awful as the orange shitstain that he’s running against
And it’s (thankfully) failing terribly because he has about as much charisma and personality as a potato. Nothing about him seems authentic. It’s like his campaign thought “Hmmm what do Trump supporters like? Nazis and fascism? Yeah let’s run with that.” and it’s clearly not connecting.
It’s like he’s running as a parody of Trump. A cheap generic knockoff. And so far it appears the GOPers want the name brand.
Trump is a narcissistic buffoon, he does evil but it is like an elephant in a glass shop, he was lashing out everywhere and especially at anything Obama did. Ron is intelligent and calculating. He knows exactly what he is doing. Both would damage the country immensely, but I think Ron would do so much more effectively. He’s also only 44, this stuff isn’t going away.
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Is "wojack" really associated with nazis, or is this another pepe the frog situation?
Me: I don't know what that is, let me check the article
Sees the picture
Me: uh, yeah, that looks like some obvious nazi or nazi suggestive, shit
…because of the bald head?
Uh, no. The imagery of WW2 era style uniformed soldiers basking in the radiance of a glowing nazi-like symbol.
Sure, but I was asking about the “wojack” meme specifically. That’s been around for a while and I never got the impression that it was a far right thing.
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