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In an easily missed moment during Wednesday night’s chaotic GOP presidential primary debate, Gov. Ron DeSantis said he would sign a federal 15-week abortion ban.

Wednesday's comment marked the first time since the launch of his presidential campaign that he said he would sign a national abortion ban.

The Daily Signal was the first to report and confirmed the governor's remarks.

The moment occurred during an exchange with Sen. Tim Scott, where he asked the governor if he would support a 15-week abortion ban. DeSantis said yes.

The moment was widely missed due to the moderators talking over the pair while the exchange was happening, trying to regain control of the debate.

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After another flaccid debate, Republican operatives and donors are privately expressing what they can’t yet state openly: the 2024 race is probably over, the debates aren’t moving the needle. Which means that Trump and whoever he picks will be the top of the ticket. It doesn't matter what DeSantis commits to, he won't be there.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dingleberry's gameplan of not participating in the debates is probably the single smartest thing he's ever done.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idgaf who they are or what party they belong to, any candidate that can't come to the table and debate their positions has no business governing. Unbelievable that this strategy is even viable.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t need strategy when your followers are in a brainless, fascist, cult.

They’ll vote trump even if he’s serving 10 life sentences.

30% of the population drank the koolaid, 50 years of voter suppression let’s them make big decisions, and it’s way easier to fool someone than convince them they’ve been fooled.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think Trump has that level of support anymore. Even Fox turned on him.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope you’re right, but that’s what everyone was saying 8 years ago.

He didn’t have the support in 2016, yet he became president. No one thought he could, I don’t even think trump thought he would win. You look at the video from his office on election night, and he looks like he just got a life sentence. And yet he won.

I’ll believe he’ll never be president again when he’s 6 feet in the ground.

He absolutely had support. Fox News was kissing his feet and Russia was influencing the GOP base in his favor.

Now even Fox has turned on him. A ton of his early supporters have abandoned ship.

I'm not saying this is a good thing. I would love for Trump to be the GOP nominee because he's way more incompetent than the others.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago

Republicans - we think states should be allowed to make their own decisions

Also Republicans - we believe this opinion should be forced on all states

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I'm so glad that he is making this deeply personal decision for himself and his family. Oh wait...

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Republicans hate women. They believe them to be second class citizens. Yet, I've seen too many not give a shit, until the last minute even. Then even then not put all the pieces of the puzzle together to figure out who is screwing them over. Most times others get blamed in the process. Their brains are broken. Because Republicans are trash doesn't mean you have to look for others to be trash, too.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember the ERA (Equal Rights Amendment)? It was largely defeated by anti-feminist women (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly#Opposition_to_Equal_Rights_Amendment)

[–] ChimaericDesire@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago

Republicans do not think women are second class citizen. That would imply they are independent citizens.

Republicans think women are property. Full stop.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Republicans for 50 years: "abortion should be left to the states to decide!!!"

Republicans the instant they get power: "we're going to force our minority opinion on EVERYONE in every state. We're taking away the rights of ALL women."

Step 1: remove a thing. (Example: no more abortions)

Step 2: trickle it back in to see how much you can get away with. (Example: abortions for some, but like with strict limitations)

Step 3: try to win over fans by saying you never believed in removing it in the first place

We are at step 2.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 year ago

His governorship should've been aborted last year, before the second term. But the morons wanted More Ron.

[–] Kofu@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He is just saying it. Its not real, he will absolutely change his mind. They always do.

[–] 520@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is DeSantis we're talking about here. A man who has stopped at practically nothing to inflict his own conservative ideology upon the people of Florida.

There are many, many colourful things I would call DeSantis, to the point where I'd be even more sweary than the South Park movie.

Of all the things I'd call him, 'all bark and no bite' is not one of them.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Everyone in awhile a politician says what he will really do if elected. This is one of those time I believe he would.

[–] doricub@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean that you think it's going to be less than 15 weeks when they try to implement it, right? Like a total abortion ban?

[–] Kofu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. A lot less, possibly the outright ban.

That's exactly what will happen

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Why would you think that? He’s a far right Catholic who gives 0 fucks before charging headfirst into unpopular decisions that will tie his government up in extremely costly lawsuits. People said for decades how they’d never actually overturn roe. Desantis would govern America exactly how he governs Florida

[–] 3rihskerb@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

This is the their first step to a total ban. We need to have roe codified.