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[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am more ambivalent about China than most Hexbears (I am rational: the "absolutely everything China does is absolutely perfect" line is ridiculous), but this one policy makes me go wow

This is the best development in a long time. Wonderful leadership.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure there are many of us that think they are perfect. It's just that when you compare them to the west they might as well be.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

kinda off-topic for the thread, but I have seen people here defend the CPC's least defensible moves

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I still can't forgive them for not doing anything to Nancy Pelosi's plane.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

that they have not invaded the US and installed me, personally, as the leader of a transitional authority is probably their greatest crime.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 months ago

Hold your horses Juan. Also DPRK has first dibs

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 months ago

Unforgivable that Xi Jinping has not broken into my home and whisked me away in the middle of the night away from this never-ending capitalist nightmare

[–] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the Khmer Rouge and invading Vietnam, those were really fucking stupid moves ngl.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Anyone here defended those? Didn't seen it even once since federation.

[–] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i dont think so lol, seems everyone acknowledges these two things were boneheaded and unproductive (also vietnam kicked china's butt ngl lmao)

also vietnam kicked china’s butt ngl lmao

I wouldn't say that, since China only send forces very limited compared to their potential, but Vietnam really did forced those to stop.

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

Vampire could be referring to more recent actions, although I don't know which specifically.

[–] Cutecity@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Since nobody said it: But at what cost?!

[–] rayne@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's a price in willing to pay

[–] rayne@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Libs on ~~reddit~~ lemmy the last few days have been shitting on this

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i'm curious, what bullshit are they saying? not sure how you can look at this and see it as a bad thing

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

“See China is imperialistic! This is the same as the IMF financial-colonialism.”

I’m just guessing tho

[–] rayne@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It looks like the Western propaganda machine is accusing China of creating a debt trap. This thread was about the south African president saying it's not a trap but a good deal. Here's some comments.

https://lemm.ee/post/41546351/14590872

So this is a comment seeing this as good news. 10 upvotes, 13 down.

After several hundred years of Western investment which only creates slums and brothels, props up violent dictators and which leaves behind a big hole in the ground where the countries resources have been stripped, I would suggest that investment that builds railways, ports and other infrastructure, creates jobs and new markets, is like a breath of fresh air .

Response with 17 upvotes and 2 down.

Because there are no slums or brothels in China, big holes in the ground, and they have never propped up violent dictators.

13 up, 3 down

Remind me: How old is China? No poor people in Tibet or Yunnan? Burma is doing wonderfully too, I hear.

And a top comment from the thread 38 up 10 down

Person benefiting financially from deal says bad deal is good deal.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

wow they really can do the best mental gymnastics

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I forsee Port Moresby suddenly gaining a large Aus owned container port they won't profit very much from.